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13 years 5 months ago - 13 years 5 months ago #40034 by wlayton
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sadlerdawg wrote: wlayton, I agree about the line limiting the playcalling, but not to the point of being entirely predictable. There was a discussion on another thread, and I, and others, was pointing out that every top offense doesn't have all-American lines. They just play to their strengths. Swing passes, WR screens, pitch outs, roll-outs, misdirections, use the fullback, use TE's to block, etc. There are literally dozens of plays that can be successful with a sub-par line and the talent we have.
Bozo just needs to buy another box of crayons and another coloring book and draw up some more creative plays.



Somebody could suggest that he could double his plays if he added the same play on the other side of the line/field. Maybe that would help him.

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13 years 5 months ago #40035 by AllDawgs5
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Sadler, I am not really complimenting bobo. I think he still has to do a better job no doubt. I just don't think it has been as horrible as it has been at times. It has been OK, not great, not terrible.

I understand what you are saying about predicting plays, but at the same time I don't think I could predict 85% of the time exactly what routes are being run, or exactly which running play is going to be run. I might be able to call a pass, or run, but honestly, it isn't that hard anyway. I could sit in front of my TV and predict all of bama's plays. I think they have a relatively easy offense to predict as far as run or pass, however, I think they have an incredibly hard offense to stop.

I would actually go a different direction with our offense problems to be honest. I think bobo tries to be to creative. I think great offenses master plays, against many different looks. Establish what you do well, and continue to do it. Take bama for instance, they run the football well. Many times it is the same play, but they have mastered those plays. The know they can run that play against whatever look you give them. I believe we try to hard to be unpredictable that we don't spend enough time establishing what we are going to do well consistently. Hope that makes sense. It would be a lot easier to explain in direct conversation and film.

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13 years 5 months ago #40036 by sadlerdawg
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wlayton wrote: Somebody could suggest that he could double his plays if he added the same play on the other side of the line/field. Maybe that would help him.


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Not sure if that would help him or completely confuse him--I don't think he's ready for the concept of there being a short and wide side of the field.

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13 years 5 months ago #40037 by averagedawg
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Agree, AllDawgs5, a great team can stare you down and pretty much tell you what they're gonna do and dare you to stop them. Unfortunately we're not a great team.

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13 years 5 months ago #40038 by sadlerdawg
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AllDawgs5 wrote: Sadler, I am not really complimenting bobo. I think he still has to do a better job no doubt. I just don't think it has been as horrible as it has been at times. It has been OK, not great, not terrible.

I understand what you are saying about predicting plays, but at the same time I don't think I could predict 85% of the time exactly what routes are being run, or exactly which running play is going to be run. I might be able to call a pass, or run, but honestly, it isn't that hard anyway. I could sit in front of my TV and predict all of bama's plays. I think they have a relatively easy offense to predict as far as run or pass, however, I think they have an incredibly hard offense to stop.

I would actually go a different direction with our offense problems to be honest. I think bobo tries to be to creative. I think great offenses master plays, against many different looks. Establish what you do well, and continue to do it. Take bama for instance, they run the football well. Many times it is the same play, but they have mastered those plays. The know they can run that play against whatever look you give them. I believe we try to hard to be unpredictable that we don't spend enough time establishing what we are going to do well consistently. Hope that makes sense. It would be a lot easier to explain in direct conversation and film.

GO DAWGS


OK, just don't worry about it then. You're comparing apples to oranges. Bama has a good line, we don't, we've established that, and that is why Bama can run pretty much all they want. We don't have that luxury, therefore, creativity comes in.
And of course, I didn't mean predict routes and holes, I was more referring to short pass, long pass, run up the middle, sweep, etc, things like that. That's what opposing DC's are having to predict so they can key in a certain area.
So, don't try my experiment, it was just for fun. If anyone else does, though, I'd be interested in the results.

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13 years 5 months ago #40039 by wlayton
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AllDawgs5 wrote: Sadler, I am not really complimenting bobo. I think he still has to do a better job no doubt. I just don't think it has been as horrible as it has been at times. It has been OK, not great, not terrible.

I understand what you are saying about predicting plays, but at the same time I don't think I could predict 85% of the time exactly what routes are being run, or exactly which running play is going to be run. I might be able to call a pass, or run, but honestly, it isn't that hard anyway. I could sit in front of my TV and predict all of bama's plays. I think they have a relatively easy offense to predict as far as run or pass, however, I think they have an incredibly hard offense to stop.

I would actually go a different direction with our offense problems to be honest. I think bobo tries to be to creative. I think great offenses master plays, against many different looks. Establish what you do well, and continue to do it. Take bama for instance, they run the football well. Many times it is the same play, but they have mastered those plays. The know they can run that play against whatever look you give them. I believe we try to hard to be unpredictable that we don't spend enough time establishing what we are going to do well consistently. Hope that makes sense. It would be a lot easier to explain in direct conversation and film.

GO DAWGS



AD5......believe you are dead on....BAMA is the perfect example. Bobo definitely tries to "out think" the D too much. He really tries to get too cute with the play calling, especially in the redzone. Example......against Ole Miss (believe it was that game)....1st and goal from the 2 yard line. Remember what Bobo called?.....a fade to OC that he DID dive and catch the ball for a TD but 1st and goal from the 2?????......RUN THE FREAKIN BALL.

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