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That is my whole argument. That rating system serve a purpose, but a football player is a football player. Some kids burn it up on the track, but when you put pads on it is a whole different story. Seen so many guys just look incredible off the field, only to be greatly disappointed when I see them on the field. Society blames most on coaches, but sometimes kids just don't have it inside. You can't tell that by recruiting a kid. Eventually, it works itself out.

I think we pay more attention to what happens in Athens, well because it is who we love. But in all reality, kids flop everywhere. Prize recruits don't pan out all the time. Happens at uf, bama, sc, both of them,. Doesn't mean the coaches have lost it, just the risk you take and the fun of recruiting.

Will agree that coaching also has something to do with it. Just look at our defenses since BVG has been gone. Seem like he was always able to get the guys to play at their highest possible level. Peterson does that at Boise just about better than anyone I have ever seen.

To me, UGA has to do a better job on both fronts. Need to be signing better football players, and they need to do a better job of getting the best out of them.

GO DAWGS

ecdawg wrote:

I always enjoy dropping by this board. Maybe I'm not here enough to know but you guys always have civil conversations. At most boards you have to wade through so much crap that it's hardly worth the effort or, in my case, time.

A couple of points:
If memory serves, M. Brown was a recruit who did not want to be redshirted and UGA said OK. Brown was mis-evaluated to the extent that the staff thought he was good enough to cater to. I think they acquiesced because they wanted his recruiting stars to make the class look better.

The real failure with this kid (and many others) is the failure of S&C. Compare Brown 6-5/219 (roster weight) physically with USC's Jeffery 6-4/233 (both soph's). Brown should be in the 240's and absolutely killing people.

Orson Charles is listed at 240 (maybe he is) but I saw him this year get jammed at the LOS head-to-head during a blocking attempt with a DE and pushed down the line quickly enough that Ealey tripped over him in the hole at guard/center. Rarely have I seen a starter for any team get beaten that badly. Beaten is the wrong word - bullied or mauled fit better.

Joe T. will have to substantially change that culture in the next 6 months or Richt is history.

ecdawg, watching College Football Today on ESPN brought me back to your post.

Florida changes coaches and the air waves are full of UF and its happenings. They get more media coverage in one week than UGA gets in a season, or close to that. There are reasons for that and it has been discussed on this board and many others for the past five or so years. Something is wrong. Now we hear more voices, especially in the last two years, and they seem to be getting louder.

Point of conversation about UF today was Brantley considering moving along and playing football at another school. Thought about that, came to this . . . Meyer and his staff did not have the coaching experience to prepare this young man to play SEC football. Brantley is a pro style QB, and all anyone has to do is look at this years UF football team and realize that they don't know how to run the pro style. Receivers were horrible, looked like UGA's DB's under WM, LOST.

Athletic Director JF made his mind up after UM quit last year. Allowed him to come back, but UM was definitely in the cross hairs. This year proved that the talent was still in Gainesville, but the coaching expertise was not. UM tried to produce another Tebow, but that failed, and in the process Brantley actually got lost in the shuffle. I know some folks down this way that are wrapped up in UF football, like we are in UGA football. When UM quit last season, to a person the folks that I know said, UM is dead on the vine. They were right and UM knew it. Foley is a hard ass. Muschamp will find out quickly, this is not Coach Brown and Texas, this is Jeremy Foley and Florida.

There has been some conversation about Brown and his playing time, or lack thereof. I watched this young man play in the Under Armour game his senior year in high school (2009). He was on the field with many young men that have since gone on to solid college football careers. In that particular game, he was one of if not the STAR on the field that day for his team. It has been said here and other places that he could not grasp the offense. What does that say about those recruiting him . . . . just a question on my part. I thought he was coming in and along with AJ, UGA was going to be something to behold. Personally think that when we have a wide reciever coach coaching running backs and a running back coach coaching wide receivers, something is missing in my way of thinking.

Beginning to hear rumbles about Grantham. Same coach that has a lengthy history from his playing days until now. Came in and had folks that were not recruited by him or by people under him recruiting the type of players that he wanted for his 3/4.

I cannot at this point say one way or the other if Grantham is the right man. This is what I have to go on. . . .Richt hired him or in conjunction with our AD, hired him. Why would a head coach that was and had been having problems with his football team for the past few years hire someone first off that he did not know . . . . second, why would he hire someone that was going to install an entirely different defense than the existing players were recruited to run . . . maybe grasping at straws, or all of a sudden had a situation where folks like Smart, who was here at the beginning of the Richt regime and turned down the offer to come back.

Anyone that accepts UGA going 6/7 or 7/6 with the caliber of players in Athens this year needs a refresher course in Head Coaching 101. I know that Richt wants to win every game, personally, don't think he remembers how. This battle for the incoming recruits to college football in 2011 will provide many answers that so many here and other places are asking.

I believe that our new AD will not hesitate to pull the trigger on anything close to what happened the past two years. Nor should he. Florida beats us next year in JAX, look for the hook, it will be over, and it should be. I trust that Mc came to right the good ship UGA.

Just saw this, hope we win some battles . . . .
blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2010/12/15/juco...ks-fsu-over-georgia/

Georgia recruiters have been seen here at Charlotte High School in Punta Gorda over the past week and a half. Believe they haven't given up on snatching Mike Bellamy away from Klempsun. Word is, he's now waffling on that commitment...

Buc, imo, you don't bring a coach in to fit the players, you bring a coach in you have confidence in to do the job and he gets the player to fit his scheme.

Look at uf.....they brought in WM that is going to run a pro-style offense with "spread" recruited players.........same difference just other side of the ball.

And Foley (the "smart one") was the trigger man.



Btw....I listened to the WM press conference and WM sounded almost exactly like the "Zooker" during his uf press conference several years ago. It was uncanny.

I wish Mark Richt was an asshole.

Because if he were an asshole then no one would have a problem with getting rid of him like needs to happen. But no.............he is the unnamed disciple so his tenure gets extended just because he is such a nice guy and the animals love him and he goes to church all the time and on and on and on.

wlayton wrote:

Buc, imo, you don't bring a coach in to fit the players, you bring a coach in you have confidence in to do the job and he gets the player to fit his scheme.

Look at uf.....they brought in WM that is going to run a pro-style offense with "spread" recruited players.........same difference just other side of the ball.

And Foley (the "smart one") was the trigger man.



Btw....I listened to the WM press conference and WM sounded almost exactly like the "Zooker" during his uf press conference several years ago. It was uncanny.

Guess bringing in a coach to fit the players can go either way. If you are successful whether it be offense or defense and the successful coordinator leaves, makes sense to stay with the same system and a coach that applies something very close to the winning formula, keeps ones house in order. That eliminates that huge "learning curve" that so much has been talked about on our defensive side this year. What we had with WM was failure, with Van Gorder running the defense, we had a winner.

It appears to me that Richt first offered the job to Muschamp so some say, and he is definitely a four man front coach. Offered the job to Smart (whether first or second) and he is a three man front. Took a lengthy amount of time for Richt to hire Grantham, understand that Grantham was with the Cowboys and had to wait. It was written that Grantham was somewhere around the fourth or fifth coach offered, can't speak to that, I don't know, and not many do.

Never will I believe that Brantley was recruited to UF to run the spread, never happen. He was to come in under Mullen and run a pro-style offense. Mullen is so adept that he can run any type offense, he is a jewel, as many will find out in the coming years. Mullen left, Brantley was left hanging under a coach that did not know how to use his talents, and Brantley has talent.

Take UM place him at Notre Dame, the school that he professed to care about, he is nothing special. Young men from Florida and the Southeast are not going to flock to Notre Dame as they once did back in the earlier stages of college football. UM found the perfect place to use his system and the perfect player to run his system. Perfect player gone, system falls apart according to Foley's standards, and that is not permissable. The true leader in Gainesville is none other than JF.

I have said it and will again. I approve of Grantham coming to Athens. Might be the best choice that Richt has made since taking over at UGA, or it could be the bottom falls out. Much has been said about the amount of points that we scored this year, some of that in my opinion is the fact that we once again started causing the ball to come loose on defense and knowing how to do something with it.

I hope that Grantham gets the young man he is after for the middle, no doubt in my mind that we have a person playing nose guard this year that can be really effective at DE. Looks as if the year of learning the defense by our team should pay dividends in Grantham's defense this coming year. I would think. Some leaving, but a huge amount of talent is coming back, with some noteworthy additions.

Bobo has a jewel in AM, much like UM had with Tebow. Different type of players, but both really effective and very talented in the way they run the college game. I expect Richt to keep Bobo. That is what head coaches do right . . . make decisions. Richt seems a bit slow at that to me, just my feelings.

kentdaddy you are right. That is a problem that Foley does not have at UF. Because he is a ass kicker, and anyone that dares mess with him finds out quickly that the door works both ways. Crossed fingers that our AD learned a thing or two in Gainesville. I am tired of losing to UF. averagedawg and some others got the satisfaction of watching Tennessee get it handed to them, I want the same results in JAX, or someone that can handle that part of the coaching job at UGA.

I realize that I am repeating myself in this post, just feel strongly that much needs to be done before next year. The SEC is getting tougher, if that is possible, and I think that it is possible.

Picked this up from ecdawg's site.
blogs.buckbelue.com/2010/12/15/now-is-th...r-richt.aspx?ref=rss