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Another quote from a UGA player that stirs the competitive juices. JTII might be what the doctor called for. Find out soon enough. Would love to see OC in the slot, or wide.

Tight end Orson Charles said he was pumped about new strength coach Joe Tereshinski II.

“I’m kind of excited. Because personally, he told me he’s gonna make me 250 (pounds),” Charles said. “And he also said he’s gonna make me faster. So I wanna see if he can really do that.”

Buc wrote:

ecdawg wrote:

I always enjoy dropping by this board. Maybe I'm not here enough to know but you guys always have civil conversations. At most boards you have to wade through so much crap that it's hardly worth the effort or, in my case, time.

A couple of points:
If memory serves, M. Brown was a recruit who did not want to be redshirted and UGA said OK. Brown was mis-evaluated to the extent that the staff thought he was good enough to cater to. I think they acquiesced because they wanted his recruiting stars to make the class look better.

The real failure with this kid (and many others) is the failure of S&C. Compare Brown 6-5/219 (roster weight) physically with USC's Jeffery 6-4/233 (both soph's). Brown should be in the 240's and absolutely killing people.

Orson Charles is listed at 240 (maybe he is) but I saw him this year get jammed at the LOS head-to-head during a blocking attempt with a DE and pushed down the line quickly enough that Ealey tripped over him in the hole at guard/center. Rarely have I seen a starter for any team get beaten that badly. Beaten is the wrong word - bullied or mauled fit better.

Joe T. will have to substantially change that culture in the next 6 months or Richt is history.

ecdawg, watching College Football Today on ESPN brought me back to your post.

Florida changes coaches and the air waves are full of UF and its happenings. They get more media coverage in one week than UGA gets in a season, or close to that. There are reasons for that and it has been discussed on this board and many others for the past five or so years. Something is wrong. Now we hear more voices, especially in the last two years, and they seem to be getting louder.

Point of conversation about UF today was Brantley considering moving along and playing football at another school. Thought about that, came to this . . . Meyer and his staff did not have the coaching experience to prepare this young man to play SEC football. Brantley is a pro style QB, and all anyone has to do is look at this years UF football team and realize that they don't know how to run the pro style. Receivers were horrible, looked like UGA's DB's under WM, LOST.

Athletic Director JF made his mind up after UM quit last year. Allowed him to come back, but UM was definitely in the cross hairs. This year proved that the talent was still in Gainesville, but the coaching expertise was not. UM tried to produce another Tebow, but that failed, and in the process Brantley actually got lost in the shuffle. I know some folks down this way that are wrapped up in UF football, like we are in UGA football. When UM quit last season, to a person the folks that I know said, UM is dead on the vine. They were right and UM knew it. Foley is a hard ass. Muschamp will find out quickly, this is not Coach Brown and Texas, this is Jeremy Foley and Florida.

There has been some conversation about Brown and his playing time, or lack thereof. I watched this young man play in the Under Armour game his senior year in high school (2009). He was on the field with many young men that have since gone on to solid college football careers. In that particular game, he was one of if not the STAR on the field that day for his team. It has been said here and other places that he could not grasp the offense. What does that say about those recruiting him . . . . just a question on my part. I thought he was coming in and along with AJ, UGA was going to be something to behold. Personally think that when we have a wide reciever coach coaching running backs and a running back coach coaching wide receivers, something is missing in my way of thinking.

Beginning to hear rumbles about Grantham. Same coach that has a lengthy history from his playing days until now. Came in and had folks that were not recruited by him or by people under him recruiting the type of players that he wanted for his 3/4.

I cannot at this point say one way or the other if Grantham is the right man. This is what I have to go on. . . .Richt hired him or in conjunction with our AD, hired him. Why would a head coach that was and had been having problems with his football team for the past few years hire someone first off that he did not know . . . . second, why would he hire someone that was going to install an entirely different defense than the existing players were recruited to run . . . maybe grasping at straws, or all of a sudden had a situation where folks like Smart, who was here at the beginning of the Richt regime and turned down the offer to come back.

Anyone that accepts UGA going 6/7 or 7/6 with the caliber of players in Athens this year needs a refresher course in Head Coaching 101. I know that Richt wants to win every game, personally, don't think he remembers how. This battle for the incoming recruits to college football in 2011 will provide many answers that so many here and other places are asking.

I believe that our new AD will not hesitate to pull the trigger on anything close to what happened the past two years. Nor should he. Florida beats us next year in JAX, look for the hook, it will be over, and it should be. I trust that Mc came to right the good ship UGA.

Just saw this, hope we win some battles . . . .
blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2010/12/15/juco...ks-fsu-over-georgia/

Buc, I'm going to stay away from your head coach argument because I don't see any change being made there before the end of the 2012 season at the earliest.

Grantham can be evaluated in 2011 be he will be staying through '12 (minimum) as well.

I have argued for a long time that the real culprit in UGA's slide is S&C. Not only have both lines been mauled consistently but (so-called) skill position players are not physically prepared. Brown is an excellent example but a better illustration may be to compare A.J. Green and Julio Jones. Both are juniors and both are 6'4". However, Jones outweighs Green by 11 pounds in program weight but if you look at them I think it's more like 25 lbs. Green looks like a skinny kid compared to Jones.

Don't misunderstand. I'm not saying Jones is a better player. He is not. I am saying that Green could have even better if he had been "encouraged" more strongly to push the iron.

S&C at UGA has been a dismal failure. That statement is actually encouraging. It leads one to surmise that a proper S&C regime will produce results quickly. If the Dawgs have enough quality talent to hang close while underdeveloped and out of shape then good things should happen quickly upon changing the S&C culture.

Thus my prediction that Richt is going nowhere.

ecdawg, football actions sometimes remind me of Washington, D.C. actions (or lack thereof).

Seems as if issues can rock along for a couple of years, then at the last minute, shazaam . . . issues can be corrected or changed. Sometimes saving a job or position can be moved up and meaningful changes made. Just saying . . .

Buc wrote:

ecdawg, football actions sometimes remind me of Washington, D.C. actions (or lack thereof).

Seems as if issues can rock along for a couple of years, then at the last minute, shazaam . . . issues can be corrected or changed. Sometimes saving a job or position can be moved up and meaningful changes made. Just saying . . .

Buc, in Washington, in college football, and generally anywhere in the work force, I think you find two types of employees. Those that LOVE what they are doing, strive to be the best employee they can, and would probably do that job no matter what it paid. Then there are those who consider their job just a menial way to make money, and generally do as little as they have to in order to keep their job and the $$ coming in. If I was still in the business of bashing coaches, I would tell you which category I think Richt falls into. But since I'm not, I won't.

nuff said sadlerdawg. . . .

Interesting

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