Question for the Guru's,...

NC_Dawg wrote: I suspect Murray will NOT go via the draft like Stafford. Moreso, I believe Murray is more apt to follow Greene and not find much, if any success at the NFL level! That being said, why NOT begin to work with the existing talent, beyond that which is afforded during practice?

Murray will play all 4 years at UGA.....probably will not be drafted and don't feel he's NFL QB material anyway (not many his size can be a Drew Brees).

That's why I predicted CL will transfer, HM will STAY #2 QB his whole career because Ramsey will take over once AM leaves.

wlayton wrote:

Mike Honcho wrote:

AllDawgs5 wrote: Mike, I agree with a lot of what you have said, however I do not agree with that last post. Richt tries to pound the rock. UGA has run the football just as many times per game as anyone else in this league. I think he runs a pro-style offense which wants to set up the passing game by running. Hence, the constant play action passes. ( I will note that you have to actually establish a consistant running game before they work:laugh: )

Richt has the biggest OL in the nation at any level. He wants big lineman. I thought we were very close to seeing an elite SEC offense in the ut game. take bama and lsu for instance. Yes, the pound the rock, and pound the rock. Then go for the homerun. I saw that Sat night. Only problem is, we didn't hit ours. Watch the lsu/fla game if you haven't. fu wanted to crowd line of scrimmage, lee threw the deep ball for a quick score. That gets in d coordinators heads. Now, they are guessing. You have to hit the deep ball.

I will also say this about CMR, quite a few of his losses have had nothing to do with a lack of offense. Maybe lack of keeping the football, but the offense was moving the ball extremely well. Defense is where it starts in this league, and ours is getting pretty dang close to being at that level.

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Hear what you're saying AD5 and I agree about the pro-style offense, in theory. But let me ask you this...where's the disconnect? By that I mean, what Richt WANTS to do on the field and what really HAPPENS on the field. Seems that the truly "elite" teams in the SEC (or at least the top 3 or 4 in any given season) have a workhorse in the backfield that they lean on. We've had some workhorse "like" RB's in the past, but other than Knowshon, I don't think we've had a 1,000+ yard rusher in any season since Musa in '02. Just seems like we have a constant revolving door of incredible RB talent come through Athens that never fully live up to hype/potential.

Maybe I'm biased and it's all in my head, but when I watch an Alabama offense, or an LSU offense, or even a SC offense with Lattimore, I see something much different than what I see from our offense. We establish the run when the other team allows us to. LSU, Alabama...they establish the run whenever the hell they feel like it.

Geez....simple answer (we've beaten to death)....they have GOOD OL's !!!!

Hear ya wlayton, but don't think it's that simple. I promise Alabama, LSU, FL, SC, et al go after the same talent we do. Granted, we don't have 5-star talent across the WHOLE line, but neither does any other school in she SEC. They do, however, have coaches that can coach up the strengths of their teams and mask the weaknesses.

Question, does anyone doubt that Saban and staff or Miles and staff couldn't take a slightly underachieving offensive line that happens to be the biggest in ALL of football and do more with it than what we've seen on the field so far?

MH....when I said simply OL difference, that also includes our lack of depth. BAMA, LSU and UF have a lot of depth.


And no, I don't think any coach can make our OL much better. These recruits just aren't as good as BAMA's and LSU's....period. They are very average linemen.

wlayton wrote: MH....when I said simply OL difference, that also includes our lack of depth. BAMA, LSU and UF have a lot of depth.


And no, I don't think any coach can make our OL much better. These recruits just aren't as good as BAMA's and LSU's....period. They are very average linemen.

I think we agree to disagree on this one wlayton. There are ways to coach an offense in order to take advantage of the sheer size of our linemen...especially with a near 300 lb fullback, a shifty runner who can make holes for himself on ocassion, and TE's like Charles and White.

Mike Honcho wrote:

wlayton wrote: MH....when I said simply OL difference, that also includes our lack of depth. BAMA, LSU and UF have a lot of depth.


And no, I don't think any coach can make our OL much better. These recruits just aren't as good as BAMA's and LSU's....period. They are very average linemen.

I think we agree to disagree on this one wlayton. There are ways to coach an offense in order to take advantage of the sheer size of our linemen...especially with a near 300 lb fullback, a shifty runner who can make holes for himself on ocassion, and TE's like Charles and White.

I'm with ya MH and agree you can "coach around" weaknesses etc such as our OL but that's just ONE more thing coaches and schemes are having to deal with. At UGA, we should have a very good, solid OL that can line up and run it right down your throat and not have to waste valuable time "planning and scheming" around them to try and make something work. They only have so many hours a week they can practice.

wlayton wrote:

Mike Honcho wrote:

wlayton wrote: MH....when I said simply OL difference, that also includes our lack of depth. BAMA, LSU and UF have a lot of depth.


And no, I don't think any coach can make our OL much better. These recruits just aren't as good as BAMA's and LSU's....period. They are very average linemen.

I think we agree to disagree on this one wlayton. There are ways to coach an offense in order to take advantage of the sheer size of our linemen...especially with a near 300 lb fullback, a shifty runner who can make holes for himself on ocassion, and TE's like Charles and White.

I'm with ya MH and agree you can "coach around" weaknesses etc such as our OL but that's just ONE more thing coaches and schemes are having to deal with. At UGA, we should have a very good, solid OL that can line up and run it right down your throat and not have to waste valuable time "planning and scheming" around them to try and make something work. They only have so many hours a week they can practice.

Well now that's an area where you and I are in complete agreement. Technically, you and I shouldn't even be having this conversation because you're exactly right...UGA SHOULD have a very good, solid OL!!

Which actually takes me full circle back to my original point...there's a void between what CMR says he wants to do and what actually happens on the field. For at least the last three years (probably longer), we've come into each season hearing how good our OL will be, but it never seems to come to fruition. Something is consistently off with the way CMR recruits/coaches O-linemen and how it translates to play on the field. You cannot/will not be successful in the SEC without talent and depth in the trenches.