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11 years 1 month ago #55054 by Buc
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Saban is a person I would think that could be referred to as a benchmark. Most would agree with that, there are some however as has been said several million times, don't like the way he manipulates (things). On this board since Saban took the reigns in Tuscaloosa many have said that including myself. The one person at that time on this board that said we should wake us was averagedawg. Talking about coaching ability. Appears averagedawg was ahead of his time.

Leads me to this . . . .
Saban makes a call to both players and coaches, he has amazing results, great return on (telephone investment). If Saban had wanted Grantham, is there any doubt that said defensive coach would not have taken up residence in Tuscaloosa?

What Nick Saban did was have a sit down with Kirby Smart and we can see how that turned out. The sit down I am referring to is not when KS was being courted by Georgia, it was at the beginning of Saban's rule in Tuscaloosa. Say again, if Nick Saban had wanted Todd Grantham, not Kirby Smart, it would have played out that way. What does that say to me? Not hard to figure, Saban does not play the "favorites" game, he chooses coaches that come to work and get the job done. Saban's fair haired child is Kirby Smart. Kirby Smart was Nick Saban's first choice, not his fourth or fifth. Kirby is still there and will remain in my opinion. Can't blame him, Saban saw something early and moved on it. That is what separates the best from those that are good or mediocre.

Thinking out loud again . . . . :)

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11 years 1 month ago #55055 by Wartdawg
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sadlerdawg wrote:

Wartdawg wrote: Although I wonder tremendously about a guy whose coaching ability depends on him having the freedom to scream
and pick fights with opposing coaches.


No need to wonder....it didn't affect his ability--he's just not a very good coach and was using it as a diversion.
Kind of like, "Don't notice we almost lost to Vandy, look at how I stuck up for my players."



I don't really wonder.



I've been saying all week that Grantham's "fire" was a smokescreen that hid a lack of ability/results.

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11 years 1 month ago - 11 years 1 month ago #55059 by Buc
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Mentioned Lakatos a couple of times recently. Have not seen or heard anything from him, and then today . . . .

www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101713aaa.html

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11 years 1 month ago - 11 years 1 month ago #55066 by Buc
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Read elsewhere that we might run a 4-2-5 defense against Vandy. Will believe that when I see it. If so, JH-C will have a super game.

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11 years 1 month ago #55070 by Wartdawg
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TG will give them a 4-2-5 look a couple of times early. It will be effective, causing some bad reads by the Commodores.

Having seen this early effectiveness, he will not call for that personnel group again after 11:49 remaining in the 2nd quarter.

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11 years 1 month ago #55072 by Rdawg
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sadlerdawg wrote:

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Ever since Richt pulled back the leash on Grantham, Grantham is pulling back his ability to coach our defense which in turn, is making Richt look bad. Grantham is the type of coach that doesn't take wearing a leash at all, let alone being pulled back from it.


Intentionally not coaching well out of spite so he can make Richt look bad? Is that what you meant?

If that's what you meant, then that's a pretty loaded charge.


Certainly not speaking for Rdawg, as I'm sure he can speak for himself, but I didn't get the same impression of what he said. I got the impression he was saying that when Grantham was forced to change his demeanor, it negatively impacted his coaching style and as a result made richt look bad. I didn't get the feeling he meant he did it on purpose. If he did mean that, I don't agree by any stretch.
I also don't agree that the change affected his results, I just don't think he's a very good DC.


Yes, this. I feel that Richt took the fire out of Grantham. I'm not saying picking a fight is a good idea, but these kids need motivation and I find it lacking in this program.

And while you guys have a change of heart with Grantham, I feel his actions against Franklin during that Vandy game was justified. Some of the players on Vandy could have easily ended one of our player's career with what they were doing, and I'll tell you right now, I would do exactly what Grantham did that night.

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