Win or Lose - Our Head Coach and OC Suck.

AllDawgs5 wrote: I cannot understand why we continued to try to run the football up the middle. I can't.
Only problem I have with the coaches, is continuing to give the same kids chances. If they cannot learn from their mistakes, park their arses on the bench.

One problem I have with the coach is continuing to give the same coordinator chances. If bozo cannot learn from his mistakes, park his arse, no?

Wartdawg wrote: It would definitely be Bobo.

Maybe you're right about Friend, but it's not just size I'm talking about...

TE on the line is a true NFL prospect. He also blocks..part of the position. LT will be one of the top linemen picked in the NFL draft. Center.. people were incensed he wasn't first team All American. Now let's look at our RT.. Mr. Justin Anderson:

"Fast-forward to Monday’s Outback Bowl game against Michigan State, Anderson will start his 14th game at right tackle. Beyond that, he’s expected to continue his career in the NFL.

“He plays hard every week. He practices hard. He’s been a joy to coach,” Friend said of the player friends and family call “Bean.”He’s a dang good football player."


All that, and our O-line was still terrible. NFL prospects at both tackle spots, including
one named Anderson, not Glenn, that Friend is quoted as saying is "a dang good football player".

I'll admit I might be throwing the baby out with the rancid bath water regarding Friend,
but something is dreadfully wrong. What I am getting at here is Friend may be the best
thing since sliced bread, but will it ever mean anything with Bobo driving the bus?

Under Friend, the O-line got a little better this year. But as long as Bobo isn't told to GoGo, or isn't demoted to QB coach, we will not see any improvement.

I'm usually OK with losing to a higher ranked, better team, which was the case with MSU. BUT. We had the 16 point lead at halftime. And what does Booboo do? Goes conservative and plays not to lose. Apparently he doesn't realize how many times that has ever worked against a good football team. ZERO. And then there's the lack of use of Orson Charles up the middle. They ran that play a lot the last two years with good results most of the time, and I don't recall but maybe one or two games this season where Bobo utilized the play. We fans need to put pressure on Richt to do something about Bobo like we did with Martinez, or we are just gonna see more lameness next year in the bigger games that mean the difference between being an upper tier team or mid-tier team. I hope, if McGarity is gonna give Richt an extension, that he puts a condition on it - that he finds a new OC.

Our military has been under orders to not fight to win a war ever since Korea, and look what's happened in every one of 'em. It's the same result on the football field.
As much as I wanted to go to the Bowl game, I sure am glad it didn't work out. It would not have been a fun trip home.

Wartdawg wrote:

sadlerdawg wrote:
I guess it's kinda hard for me to understand how you agree with one and not the other. Both are playing not to lose, and both are telling your offensive players "I have no faith that you can win this game, so I'm going to puss out and hope for the best".
Well, that's what happens. You lose. More often than not, playing not to lose causes you to lose. No killer instinct or desire to try to win games from the coaching staff will doom us to the 2nd tier of the SEC for years to come.

Time on the clock makes a big difference.

It's one thing to do something in overtime with no time constraints and you can run, pass
short or long, and the whole play book is open to you compared to trying to move it
30-40+ yards with seconds remaining and the D pretty much knows you have to try and
get the ball way down field.

Guess we just think differently, wart. It's a chance to win, and in my opinion, worth the risk. My opinion.

AllDawgs5 wrote: I am pissed about what happened. We should have never lost the game, but comparing this loss to last year's isn't even close IMHO. MSU was a very good football team. CMR gave the boys up front a chance early, it made no difference. Man vs man. All coaching out of it, and MSU stuffed it. Ripped the coaches as bad as any. I cannot understand why we continued to try to run the football up the middle. I can't. I also can't understand how we cant cover the middle of the field, or how the same ole routes are eating us alive. I can't understand how Murray hasn't learned how his turnovers can just crush a team. Especially when the other team is constantly scoring points off of them.

Can constantly blame coaching if we want, but weird how others have been successful under the coaches? Wonder what read David Green would have made? Wonder what happens if we don't throw that one football to the flat. Funny how one play can change a game. And to think it would come on the easiest read passing play there is, with a corner that never took one step back. No bluff or anything. I truly just can't get over that throw. Corner squats, throw it deep. I can only imagine how many times a coach as said that. I am still just totally dumbfounded by that throw. Imagine if we make the right read there, and hit the vertical down the sideline for a td. Wonder what happens then? This is where is comes to players making plays.

Been times where I have just wanted a total overhaul of all our coaches. Now, is oddly enough not one of them. Call me a sunshine pumper all you want. Guess I just figure each man has a job to do. It about time some of our boys started maning up. Only problem I have with the coaches, is continuing to give the same kids chances. If they cannot learn from their mistakes, park their arses on the bench.

Here's what I don't get AD5...

First of all.. When Green was our QB, Bobo was not the OC. Who cares what would or
would not have happened if Green was our QB now. We don't know what Green would
have been like with Bozo doing the play calling and scheming.

Then you say things like "I cannot understand why we continued to try to run the football up the middle. I can't.", but then you also don't think we should be blaming the
coaches for anything??

Wartdawg wrote: It would definitely be Bobo.

Maybe you're right about Friend, but it's not just size I'm talking about...

TE on the line is a true NFL prospect. He also blocks..part of the position. LT will be one of the top linemen picked in the NFL draft. Center.. people were incensed he wasn't first team All American. Now let's look at our RT.. Mr. Justin Anderson:

"Fast-forward to Monday’s Outback Bowl game against Michigan State, Anderson will start his 14th game at right tackle. Beyond that, he’s expected to continue his career in the NFL.

“He plays hard every week. He practices hard. He’s been a joy to coach,” Friend said of the player friends and family call “Bean.”He’s a dang good football player."


All that, and our O-line was still terrible. NFL prospects at both tackle spots, including
one named Anderson, not Glenn, that Friend is quoted as saying is "a dang good football player".

I'll admit I might be throwing the baby out with the rancid bath water regarding Friend,
but something is dreadfully wrong. What I am getting at here is Friend may be the best
thing since sliced bread, but will it ever mean anything with Bobo driving the bus?

Somehow I did not get the feeling that you were in Friend's corner. I accept that, Friend has to prove that. In order to do that, in my way of thinking we have to give him the same chance that we gave Coach Grantham. Let's not judge him on "others recruits" . . . . let's see what he has to offer with the incoming linemen, many being his choice.

All of this comes down to direction in my mind. Bobo is the offensive coordinator, Richt made sure all of us were aware of that, and appears that he is sticking by that decision. He (Richt) tends to do that to a fault. Don't need to enter that discussion again.

I would suggest that we wander back to our game against Boise State. Those little guys on both the offensive and defensive side of the ball ate our lunch. Some say otherwise, but that is the truth. Why? Lots of Seniors on that football team that had been in the system for most of 4 years. Being an old fart, I know that experience matters. The best leave college and enter the NFL and 9 out of 10 enter a different world. High school players also enter a foreign world in college. Comes with repitition and learning a "system". Friend brought his system to UGA. We will have more to discuss concerning Friend next season.

Appears that Coach Grantham changed some things upon arrival. Had some hard knocks, but he plowed ahead and whether we like the results of yesterday or not, we are better now than under WM/Richt. Grantham sure as heck did not get a lot of "help" from Richt/Bobo. I also witnessed the potential of Grantham's coaching against LSU. Look forward to Friend and Coach Grantham applying their systems in the future.

sadlerdawg wrote: Guess we just think differently, wart. It's a chance to win, and in my opinion, worth the risk. My opinion.

We do, but for me it was where we were on the field. Our own end of the field with the
D knowing what we were going to do if we tried. In OT, it's a complete different set of
circumstances and hardly comparable. The D doesn't have a clue what you're going to
do on THEIR 25 yard line when you are already close enough for a FG.