Win or Lose - Our Head Coach and OC Suck.

Average and AD5 you are exactally right, our D had no excusses. As you both have said and I have said several times, we have beaten no one except for the teams we were suppose to beat. We barley hung on to beat a decent Vandy team. How after 2 full years do AM keep throwing pick 6, I think he is OK but not the great QB that everyone wants to make him to be. He has kissled us in big games, USC and MSU, can't remember how he played against BS in the opener. I also am so gald that BW is gone, how can you go from the best kicker in football to one of the worst your senior year.

Most of you know me, and all spring and summer long, I would not buy into the progress, and yes after we won 5 or 6 games in a row started to believe, then came the LSU game and now this game, I can tell you one thing, we are no better off than we were in 2010 except with wins and a weak schedule. We have a weak schedule next year, but don't see us beating Miszu or USC, so we beat the cream puffs and continue to lose to the top teams in the east.

Oh the reason I say we lose to Miszu, is they return their QB that got them to their bowl win, and of course SS can turn most teams into winners, and he has found him a good QB is Conner Shaw. So we can't do squat against a good offence, for our offense is just 3 runs and kick, keeping the D on the field much to long.

duck, Right on.
I bought into the turn the corner thing.
But I'll tell you what. Good teams led by good coaches improve as the season progresses.
Richt's teams fold.
Don't extend his contract.

I think we have progressed. I am not going to say we haven't improved since last year because I believe we have. MSU was a good football team. We should have won the game. I can't say that about the BSU game. 10-4. Better have 12 wins next year.

Sad, sad. I am about to say I am ok with just trying to run it up the middle everytime that we have a lead of 2 TD's. Seems every time we have a chance to put a game away, AM makes a costly mistake. Fumbles, Pick 6's. I hate to single out one kid, but MSU was out of the game until the 2 picks let them back in it. Willing to bet if those 2 picks don't happen, people are ripping CMR for not pouring it on. Total back breakers at the worst possible times. Still just a sophomore though. Keep your head up.

not going to harp on the obvious.......if the coaches on the 0 side of the ball had any guts the D may not have been in the position to have to stop the drive that tied up the game......many other what ifs but when it comes down to crunch time and the win neither side stepped up and did the job and that falls at the feet of CMR.......no one else......

ogredawg wrote: Piss poor coaching cost us this game.........3 points I will make


#1 2 minutes left MSU has one time out we have the ball and it is 3rd and 9 and what do we do.....we run the ball up the middle......don't even try to get a first down.....and if we get a first down...guess what....game over we win......


#2 Take a knee a play for the OT win......we got at least 2 chances with 13 seconds to go.....do we take them..........uh no......


#3 don't even try to score a TD in the 1st OT.....what do we do....we take a frggin knee on SECOND down and put the game in Walsh's hands..........that turned out real well.....so what happens we lose on a blocked FG in the 3rd OT.....


Richt and Bobo got to go or we will continue to be a CONSERVATIVE SECOND TIER SEC TEAM.....


enjoy the kool aid tonite islanders........

Trying real hard to keep from pointing a finger at one particular area of our football team. Made only one post last evening and after the game wanted to read what everyone had to say.

I am still in the camp with kentdaddy. He has not wavered at all from his position as to why UGA with outstanding recruiting years, last 10 years, can only rise to a certain level.

We can blame the players, coaches, assistants of all sorts and in my mind we still come back to why UGA can’t seem to get over the hump. Seems to me that averagedawg is on point again. We beat the teams that we should, when we come up against teams that are our equal or better, there always seems to be an excuse as to what went wrong.

Going into the overtime yesterday, it was hard for me to watch a very excited Michigan State team jump up and down and put on their war bonnets. Watching our young players, did not see a lot of that, and it brings me to this. As has been said before, most of our team has taken on the mannerisms of our head coach.

As a booster of Coach Grantham, liking his style and ferocity, something that I have said over and over our football team needed and . . . still needs. As kentdaddy said again, and has now for a long time . . . Our head coach is too laid back. While this demeanor seems to win in the living rooms of potential players, it certainly is not paying off against many of our tougher opponents. Records speak for themselves, no denying facts.

There have been some very good points made about the game against the Spartans on this site. Some blame all of the coaches. Some say players. From where I sit, think that it is a mixture of both. Some players are not cut out to play top flight SEC football, IC is one of those. Anyone thinks that he won’t be babied for as long as he remains in Athens, in my opinion haven’t watched the actions between the coach and the player. In the “tough guy” football games, he is what we used to call a “candy something”.

Losing Jenkins after the interception did not help our side at all. Glad he is coming back, he had a lot to do with the record that UGA had this season. He is all man and a “tough guy”.

See where some think that Friend fell down on his job. Some say and have said on this board that coaches coach and players play. Friend took what was nothing more than a rag tag lineup and pieced together some players that were not recruited by him. Kind of like Coach Grantham’s hiring. Grantham needed some time to as he said . . . . “get the right players” for his defensive teachings. Grantham will be entering his third year and still wants a couple more pieces to finish the type of defense he wants and knows that UGA needs. Friend sees the calvary coming over the hill, real help is on the way. My bet is by the South Carolina game, we will see an offensive line that can and will compete.

Appears that we cannot get away from “three yards and a cloud of dust”. Will never understand the plays called yesterday in “critical” situations. Tough thing about the situation, we have to brace ourselves for more of the same. Running backs will change, the OC will still be here. My opinion, the missing link to greater success is hiring a offensive coordinator that does one thing . . . Coordinates.

After yesterdays game, my bet is that Orson Charles moves on. Really has nothing more to prove in Athens. I wish him well, and I also can’t understand why we could not get the ball to Orson. Runs good routes, catches the ball, good for yards after catch. What?

There will be more discussions. I am still Dawg to the core. I still want to see some changes that sadlerdawg has asked for in what seems like an eternity.

Coach’em up is the key. Maybe we need a couple of coaches.

ogredawg wrote: I for one am not going to put anything on the players.....they played thier collective asses off......CMR and Bobo lost this game......when we got the ball back with 13 seconds the sideline shot was CMR and Bobo agreeing to "take a knee" and play for OT win.....knew then it was over for us....

I actually didn't mind us taking the knee at the end of the game. I think it would have been
foolish to do otherwise. Turn it over, and MS is on our side of the field with a chance
to win the game.

What I minded most was in overtime when we intercepted, and all we had to do was score to
win. In that situation... knowing how badly Walsh has been this season, we don't even
attempt to move the ball... we run two plays (first play with our 170lb RB), lose 3 yards
and then send in Walsh to attempt a 42 yarder. That's not gimme' distance for any kicker,
and certainly not ours who missed wide right all season. Sorry, but I gave up on Walsh
about half way through the season. Not our coaching staff though... they continued for
the most part thinking that this was 2010 or 2009 Walsh, not the 2011 one who at best
was a 50/50 shot from 42.

I know Buc is a big fan of Friend... me, now, not so much. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying
this crap. We had a can't miss NFL prospect at LT named Cordy Glenn. On top of that, we had a center that many people couldn't believe wasn't a 1st team All American at center.
We also had a NFL prospect at TE on our line. Then the rest of the line was massive... biggest in football, and all that together and our O-line was really that bad? Really? Really?? Sorry Friend, but I don't see it. Right now on the right sidebar
of this site I am seeing an article about how SENIOR Justin Anderson's career being
resurrected under Will Friend. Please.

Charles... WTF??? Let me repeat that.. W...T...F??? We didn't throw once to the TE.
Not once did we try and get their line backers off the line of scrimmage by pushing
it deep over the middle. WTF? I swear to God I think it was Bobo deciding since OC was going to leave for the NFL, he was going to leave him out of the game plan. How the
hell else can you explain not incorporating the TE into our plan? Please.. someone
tell me. I'm begging you to explain that one.

170lb RB's on the field when you need a few yards and need to hold on to the ball...
Not incorporating one of your best weapons into the game plan...
Trusting a crappy kicker to go out and repeatedly make 40+ yard high pressure field
goals...
Conservative play calling when you had them down and should have stepped on their
throat...

Pathetic. Just pathetic. I don't see any scenario where I will ever trust Bobo and
CMR to win a national championship. Never. Oh sure... we can recruit skill talent,
and win the east if we have a easy schedule, but that's about as far as I ever
see us getting with Bobo running the O, and unfortunately I don't see CMR ever
grasping that concept and wanting to do something to change it. I like the guy and
think he's great at getting talent in Athens, but he is soft, and he's way too
damn loyal to his loser friends.

I will say one more thing about AM. He has a gunslinger mentality. He will throw some
bad pics every once in awhile, BUT....

It doesn't help when your OC keeps calling pass patterns out in the flat when you've
done nothing all game to make the D think you are going to do anything in the middle
of the field. As we saw on Boykin's TD... the ONE time we tried something over the
middle, it was wide open. It was wide open because by halftime, State was squatting
on the flats outside and abandoning covering the middle of the field. Yeah.. when
the D has that mentality and you keep calling plays in the flat... you're gonna' eventually throw a pick 6.