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14 years 4 months ago #32793 by AllDawgs5
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Not seeing how it has nothing to do with thread. How is anybody supposed to convince you that he is the man of the future without using his past. Would we not hire a coach based on his past?

Wouldn't we hire a new coach based on what he has done in the past? If not, why don't we just take a chance on hiring a coach who have never done it before. Not really seeing how you could do that.

What about any coach would make them the right man if you cannot use what they have done in the past? Please provide an example. Really curious to see how that works.

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14 years 4 months ago #32794 by duck
AllDawgs5, you are missing the point, and you are handing on to what CMR did the first 5 years at UGA. What we all are saying is look at the past 5 years. How can you defend a coach when UGA keeps losing more and more games each year. What has he done over say the past 3 years to make you think he will turn this around. Do you think he is a good motivator, does he get this team ready to play 4 quarters. He would be a great coach at say Ga Southern or Duke, but not UGA. I'm just saying, look at the past 5 years and quit quoting what he did in the past.

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Duck

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14 years 4 months ago #32795 by sadlerdawg
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AllDawgs5 wrote:

Not seeing how it has nothing to do with thread. How is anybody supposed to convince you that he is the man of the future without using his past. Would we not hire a coach based on his past?

Wouldn't we hire a new coach based on what he has done in the past? If not, why don't we just take a chance on hiring a coach who have never done it before. Not really seeing how you could do that.

What about any coach would make them the right man if you cannot use what they have done in the past? Please provide an example. Really curious to see how that works.


AD5, as I stated in the original post, I'm not concerned about his ancient past, i.e. his first 5 years at UGA. When you hire a coach, you go by his RECENT past, i.e. his last 5 years. Would anybody hire Bobby Bowden based on what he did in the 80's and 90's at FSU? So there's your example.

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14 years 4 months ago #32796 by Buc
AllDawgs5 wrote:

Not seeing how it has nothing to do with thread. How is anybody supposed to convince you that he is the man of the future without using his past. Would we not hire a coach based on his past?

Wouldn't we hire a new coach based on what he has done in the past? If not, why don't we just take a chance on hiring a coach who have never done it before. Not really seeing how you could do that.

What about any coach would make them the right man if you cannot use what they have done in the past? Please provide an example. Really curious to see how that works.


With sadlerdawg's permission I will stray a bit, but not too far and try to answer the above.

1st paragraph . . . Bobo had some coaching success in the past? Richt's hire.

2nd paragraph . . . sounds like a repeat of the 1st paragraph.

3rd paragraph . . . Example: VD. He had a coaching past that rang bells and produced flashing lights. Don't think so. Really curious about VD's accomplishments prior to UGA hiring. Don't think there is a lengthy list of accomplishments.

One other hire, that being Erk Russell, did not have a long list of accomplishments.

Hope this answered some of the silliness that you are espousing on the board these days. It is not about you, don't take blogs so seriously that it puts your butt in a wad. Go with the flow, state your opinion and move on. You seriously miss on the sales end.

One last thought . . . Richt did not accept the job at UGA until the night before deadline according to what he has said. He was not sure he could handle the job as head coach. He was very comfortable at FSU, like being under BB.

He made the leap, at first appeared he had the "stuff" that it takes. As Duck said, go back five years, not fifty years, progress is not being made. We have become a repeat of what happened to BB at FSU. That is evident.

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14 years 4 months ago #32798 by AllDawgs5
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OK, I will look at the past few year:

2007- much improved from 2006. Finished 2nd in the nation to end the year. Don't know the last time we had done that before 2007

2008- 10-3. Lost to Bama who ended the regular season undefeated. Same core the won a NC the next year. Lost to Florida. Arguably had to best college football player of all-time in many's opinion. Oh yeah, they also won the NC that year. We did get upset against GT. Nothing to do with the offense though. Still a 10 win season. Not to bad. Yeah we started the season ranked No.1, but I believe this was the year where the injury bug hit us hard.

2009- 8-5. Lost 2 first round draft picks to the NFL early. Imagine if those 2 had stayed. Lost to OSU to start the season. They were a pretty good team. All the experts thought they were a better team than us before the season that is why they were ranked higher than us in every poll. Lost to LSU, on a controversial call that is still referenced to this day. Not saying it was the main reason we lost, but it definitely impacted the game. Lost to UF. Oh yeah, they still had the Tebow guy. Hate him or not, he was special. Will say we lost to Ut and UK and had not business losing those games. What were everyone's expectations for this team? Did we really expect to be contenders? Hoping we were all smart enough football heads to know that this was probably going to be a long year.

2010- 4-5. Disappointed, yes I am. Credit Richt for 2 losses. USC and MSU. Not saying we would have beat USC in Columbia, but we didn't give it our best effort. I believe they beat the God of the SEC there by 14pts. Do we have more talent? I honestly don't know. Lattimore is unbelievable, Garcia is experienced and has talent, and for that game, there WR's were better than ours. Arkansas. Offense scored 24 pts. Not great but looking at how many it should take to beat them with a decent defense, probably enough to win. Wouldn't call Bama's defense great this year, and they found a way to hold them at Arkansas. MSU, don't even want to talk about it. Colorado. Offense should have scored more pts, but a UGA defense has no business giving up 29pts to the Buff's if the Rainbow warriors D only allows 31 against them. Don't forget the King fumble late in the game. How is a coach suppose to know ahead of time that a back is going to try a spin move before he gets the ball. UF- tough turnovers. Don't think you can credit the coaches either side. Somehow though, Flordia's offense could only score 6 pts against Bama, 7pts against MSU, and only scored more pts than they did on us against Miami of Ohio, and USF.

Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, the defense has played well at times and very poorly at times. Not the caliber of play you need to win on a consistent basis in this league. They deserve some of the blame too. Not saying it falls solely on them, but it seems that Bama's D is always able to bail them out, and the other good teams as well. Ours has one time. The early pick against UF.

There's the recent past. Some losses that shouldn't have happened and some wins that we probably in all honesty shouldn't have won. Be realistic. SEC football has and always will be about great defenses. Teams that win in this league consistently will have them. We don't.

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14 years 4 months ago #32799 by Buc
There's the recent past. Some losses that shouldn't have happened and some wins that we probably in all honesty shouldn't have won. Be realistic. SEC football has and always will be about great defenses. Teams that win in this league consistently will have them. We don't.

Be realistic? Who is not being realistic? CTG's fault I assume you are saying is the culprit on the defensive side. Who the hell hired CTG? Who hired WM? Who hired the other coaches that were released after last season.

Richt has hired Belin, Lakatos and Grantham. Has Richt yet again made major mistakes in his latest hirings?

Long story cut short, you really need to find some of that realism that you profess others don't have. Getting to the point that I am wondering about your fixation with Richt.

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