Somebody, please, help me understand...

Crack a bottle!!..JB

sadlerdawg wrote:

wlayton wrote:

Face it....we can say he has no fire. He didn't become a great athlete himself, back in his days playing ball, without having fire in his gut. You don't have to rant and rave to have fire.

We can say he can't motivate.......we don't REALLY know that, how many of us are in the locker room or practice or one on one meetings and actually witness CMR........NOBODY, we are just GUESSING.

We can say he doesn't prepare the team.....again, how the hell does ANYBODY on this forum really know? We all talk big and act like we know....but truth is we DON'T.

We can say he doesn't care anymore......any competitor past or present CARES, it's something that is in them all their lives, competitivenes is not a learned trait.

Bottom line......we all just speculate and really don't have a clue. I know I haven't been to Athens lately to witness ALL that goes on. We only see the duck on top of the water, we can't see him paddling like crazy.

wlayton, I don't think anybody is claiming to KNOW for a fact how Richt motivates or prepares the team, I for one am just basing that on the result I see on the field. The team seems unmotivated and unprepared quite often, IMO. Let's face it, nobody in a jury actually sees the crime committed, but based on what's presented to them in the court , like on the field for us, they can usually make an educated and accurate decision.

First of all, in court 9 out of ten times you have HARD evidence to make the decision easy.

Secondly .....ALL I'm saying is I don't like making a decision on CMR based on what "seems" and since I'm not employed by the University to see first hand, I really don't have a clue......so, I would be guessing. (I'm trained NOT to guess)

Buc, you have a misconception about what me and wlayton are saying. I am not saying I am a die hard Richt man. I am a die hard UGA man. It would be just as easy to compare Richt to Dooley in their first 10 years, than it would be to compare him to Bowden at the end of his career.

I have about as much reasoning that Richt can get it turned around as others to believing that he can't.

As far as me not knowing the criteria of a Head Coach. Talk about making statements that you know nothing about. You have no idea what actual coaching experience I have. Don't sit on both sides of the fence with Dooley. If he was fired in the same time we are giving Richt, there would not have been an Erk at UGA, more than likely.

As for Richt messing up with CTG, I don't think he did. Believe a couple of months back you even wrote something how Richt was starting to put the pieces of the puzzle together. Proceeded to say that you knew there would be disappointments, but you believe UGA was going to be opening up more winning fortune cookies. Something of that nature. I agreed with everything. Grantham would be good, there would be disappointments, and good things are in store. I still believe that. That is basis for wanting Richt back.

Has nothing to do with an obsession with the man. If we could bring in a coach that was guaranteed to win a NC in the next couple of years, I would fire the man today. But there aren't any gurantees.

Everyone talks about a coach having to adjust with the times. Hate to tell everyone this but if a college coach actually physically harmed a player, not only would he lose his job, he would more than likely lose his house, bank account, etc.. Those things cannot happen anymore. That is the society we live in. Agree or disagree. Problems happen everywhere. Right now, it is happening at UGA. I believe Richt will get if fixed. Have a buddy that is an insider at UT, you wouldn't believe the stories I have heard about other programs and there ability to cover up trouble. Plus, you have to take a chance on kids. Yeah some are bad apples. All you can do is kick them off, and then watch them go somewhere else. Newton at Auburn, Saban going after Mettenberger. Why should kids really worry? If they get kicked off here, they will just end up at another powerhouse program. Happens all the time.

Here is the reason I think he should be back. He is molding Murray in to exactly the type of QB you need to win a lot of games in this league. Everyone can see that. He has that it factor that I haven't seen since David Green. Murray has a comfort level with Richt obviously, or he would not have been here. He hired a DC that I still have confidence in although I have not seen any significant difference in results. The offense has began playing good football. OL is starting to establish themselves and rb are running hard. I see a lot of upside. Upside that I think is worth taking a chance on,and I feel the risk to screw it up by bringing in a whole new staff is simply not worth. I think Richt realizes after this year he will be backed into a corner, and I expect us to come out swinging. There's your answer

As for motivation. I saw a team come out in the 2nd half ready to dominate Saturday. Yeah, it was the 2nd half, but the man struck a nerve. Just like he did in 08 against Bama. Believe I even heard him state at half time that he was going to have to go in the locker room and get into some peoples a**es. Only a fire can make a christian man cuss.

Oh.......in DEFENSE of my no decision stance, I posted back in August that this WASN'T going to be a great year and that NEXT year would be the season I would expect to be a CONTENDER.

Fellows, this is what it is. As NC_Dawg alluded to, there is no end to this type of conversation.

I was of the opinion at the beginning of the year UGA was going to have a good year because we had a weaker schedule. Many of the posts here were as high as 11 wins. Most between 8 and 10.

Our offensive line was supposed to be one of the best in the country.

Most here were excited about the 3/4 defense, that more and more has been a lot of 4 man fronts.

We have excellent receivers, most found out that AM has an arm, but scoots pretty well. Somewhere along the line we lost our way. Some of that was because of AJ being penalized.

I see players come to the team, many that start at one position and end up playing somewhere else. That could be good coaching or it could be bad recruiting.

I too would say to you AllDawgs5, you don't know my history either. Will post this. I have coached football in the armed services, both Servicemen and coached their sons on another level of course. I have been active in my area and have been known to rub elbows with those that are in power and asked for my thoughts. I quarterbacked in high school and played linebacker on defense. It was a two way game once upon a time.

Where I am coming from is how most programs are ran these days. If you are at a school that has a huge tradition, huge fan base, great recruiting base, it does not leave a lot of wiggle room. Richt has in MY opinion had quite a bit of wiggle room. We all know and don't have to be told for the umpteenth time, Richt is coming back next year. If he does well, will probably get another year. The football is in his court, he wears the pants at this point.

Charlie Weis while at Notre Dame found out that words don't count, wins do. Point being there, maybe Charlie Weis should have stayed in pro ball, college did not work. Now he is back with Kansas City and doing well again.

Saban was successful in college, took a trip to Miami, did not work for him. Now back in college and having a pretty good run. Different strokes for different folks.

All of us have to find where it is we fit, some are stockbrokers, some school teachers, many different vocations that make up the fans of UGA.

What I think maybe you don't understand is this . . . . I don't want UGA to lose, I pull for the Dawgs everytime they are on the field, on the field and coached by Richt. I scream as loud or louder than most when we make an outstanding play. Does not have to be a touchdown or field goal. I enjoy good hardnosed SEC football, have for many years, and hope for more.

I do not believe that I need to be schooled with a bunch of stats. I have eyes, can see and I also understand the game as well as most. Much like the talk of wilddawg or wild anything formations that pro and colleges are running today. That is nothing new, just a variation of the old single wing that went out of style in the late 50's. There is nothing new in football that I can see. It still takes young men that want to play and coaches that know how to coach.

So, remember this AllDawgs5, you are not the only one that has coached football and other sports, the woods are full of us. We just happen to be on opposite sides of the fence as to who and how.

No defense needed I remember that very clearly. It was also stated that if and it was a huge IF that this could be a very special season. It has turned out to be a very special season that we would like to foget. However, it is what it is, somewhere a balance needs to be found on this blame game. We have had huge improvements not in the wins but getting better. Last year we had Int's and dumb flags,lack of effort. It looks bad when the "D" get beat on a big play but that happened last year also. Run "D" and kick coverages rank at or close to the top of SEC. But hey I am just a ole sunshine pumper living in the shadow of Sanford. Not ready to toss out the baby with the wash water just yet. As always Go Dawgs !!