Great Article on Homeschooled Timmy

Wasn't try to insuate that you had to be a christian to cry. Just hate to see the character of a good person being maligned because he did show emotion. Don't know what generation is yours, but I was kid in the 70's and a teenager in the 80's and can remember seeing lots of guys showing emotion after a big game no matter what the sport. Just look back at video of players holding up a championship trophy right after the game. Tim Tebow is not the only player to ever shed a tear. What I was saying is your not less of a man for it and there are lots of men's men in sports that I would bet people wouldn't call cry babies to their face. I can't believe I am actually defending a Gator. I think I am going to call my doctor in the morning. I must need medication.

You know guys, I hear all of you.......one of the first thoughts that came into my mind was that Tim is still just a kid. He's not a 45 year old man, he's perceived as a mature , grown, experienced in the world man.......but he's NOT, he is still just a 21-22 year old \"kid\" that is very passionate and emotional.

Let's try not forget that.

GatorinGA wrote:

dapolla wrote:

Here's a great Yahoo! Sports article on Tim Tebow's legacy of utter and complete failure: rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_s...eal?urn=ncaaf,207140

Did you even read it? It states that he only failed to be known as \"the greatest player of all time\". But he will be regarded as one of them. I have no doubt. The article states, and I agree, that even if they were to finish 2nd in the polls this year, the year would be considered a failure.

To quote the article that you mis understood, \"Ah, yes: About those \"all time\" superlatives. Most decorated? Yes. Most competitive? Probably. Most respected? Arguably. Most popular? Clearly.

But greatest? That was what was on the line this season: Greatest College Football Player of All Time.

However, there was a single condition: Win the national championship. As I said here last week: Anything less than a championship would -- and should -- be considered a failure for Tebow, for Urban Meyer and for the team.\"

I did read it. I think that people who think that ultimate success is truly the only measure of any success at all are jokes. I also think Tebow is a joke.

Will he be regarded as one of the greatest football players ever? Yes. Will it matter to him? Not if he keeps up this attitude of WIN EVERYTHING OR GO HOME CRYING. People like that disgust me.

Do I think Tim Tebow is one of the greatest ever? Well, he's certainly got the stats, although the stats are (as I've said time and again on this board) skewed. I think the real question is, who would I put IN FRONT of Tim Tebow? I'm no scholar, but here I go, in no particular order (except that Herschel IS number one)

Herschel Walker
Tommie Frazier
Desmond Howard
Charles Woodson
Barry Sanders
Emmitt Smith
Danny Wuerffel (yes...he was a better quarterback than Tebow)
Charley Trippi
David Pollack (sorry...it's not even a close contest there)
Tony Dorsett
Doug Flutie
Marcus Allen

Could I come up with more? I honestly don't know. But obviously that puts Tebow top 15. I respect what he's done in his three years as a starter; you have to. But I also know that, if you go by stats alone, Dan LeFevour and Armanti Edwards are better college players than Tim Tebow. If you go by championships, they are too; LeFevour has two more conference championships as a starter than Tebow does, and Edwards has one more national title as a starter. They both FAR out-stat Tebow, especially Edwards. Why aren't they the greatest of all time? Because they play for Central Michigan and Appalachian State, respectively.

Tebow is an overhyped, if talented, football player. In my mind, though, he'll always be a self-righteous blowhard crybaby. You cannot change that by assuming I misread the article. I did not misread it. I simply think that it's pathetic that Tim Tebow considers himself a failure. Therefore, in my mind, he is one.

Plus, he's a crybaby.

There. Attack that.

dapolla dont think anyone is going to attack that. There are plenty of dawg fans on this very site who differ from your opinion. If we all felt the same there would be no point in having this site. But it is easy to list those names and say they are better than TT. Its even easier to sit back and judge him. Judging by the rest of the comments posted on this thread, its you and OSD that think he is a crybaby. Just throwin that out there.

There's a difference between crying out of disappointment and crying because you lost. Tim Tebow has never had anything bad happen to him in his entire life. Ever. When he was homeschooled, the district made an exception for him so that he could play for the local high school. When he lost three games (crying after each one), the world compensated by giving him the Heisman trophy. Tim Tebow wasn't crying because he was disappointed at how the season turned out. He was crying because he doesn't think that he's supposed to lose. That's why, I think, so many people are put off by Tebow crying on national TV. Not because he cried, but because he looked like he was a kid throwing a tantrum.

If Florida had gone on to lose to, say, Georgia and LSU in 2008 after the Ole Miss game, would Tebow's after-game rant have been named \"The Speech\" or \"The Tantrum\"? Because, at the time, let's be honest, it was more like a tantrum.

Look, being a great player doesn't require much but God-given ability and a knowledge of the sport you play. Being a great sportsman and a great leader requires one thing Tebow doesn't have: the ability to lose gracefully. Everybody wants to be a Gator when you've got the crystal football and the band is playing and the confetti is falling. It's how Tebow reacts to losing that bothers me. He can't handle losing. That's why he's a crybaby. Not because he cried. But because of why and how he cried.

AMEN, Dapolla