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Wartdawg wrote:

scooby wrote: If you want to win you can't worry to much about the academic abilities of the players. Actually, if you just want to half way compete you can't worry about it. That's kind of the elephant in the room for college football and basketball. Many of the guys don't have the academic skills to be there. I don't have any stats to back my thoughts, just my spidy senses. I know it's been like this forever, just seems to be getting worse.

not true...

your spidy senses are just pulling comments out
of your rear end. You know not, that which you speak about.

well, this took about 30 seconds to find...

investigations.myajc.com/football-admissions/

Watdawg that's why UGA was known as the Yale of the South for many years. First pres. of UGA was a Yale grad, Abe Baldwin.
As always, GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!

Scooby this is why I am against the football culture in the SEC. Yes, even Vandy has fallen into the trap. We should refer to then as athletic -students not student- athletes. Basketball has gotten just as bad with the one & done that is allowed now.
As always, GO DAWGS!!!!!!! JUST DO IT RIGHT, GO TO CLASS & BECOME A TRUE STUDENT-athlete.

What's interesting is that almost all schools have lower academic standards for athletes, but it doesn't automatically make all of those teams winners.

Even Stanford has lowered standars for athletes (despite their claims otherwise), but lower standards at Stanford still just about equal the normal standards at SEC schools, and they win quite a bit.

They decided to start making recruiting linemen a priority and they started winning.

Another study showed the bottom 10 universities in terms of SAT scores by student athletes:

Oklahoma State, 878
Louisville, 878
Memphis, 890
Florida, 890
Texas Tech, 901
Arkansas, 910
Texas A&M, 911
Mississippi State, 911
Washington State, 916
Michigan State, 917

It doesn't seem to necessarily correlate to winning.

All schools lower standards, and they all do it at roughly equitable percentages to their contemporaries. Still when you have academically similar schools, you'll generally find one recruits better players and coaches them better than the other. That's when "winning" occurs.

Wartdawg Your post is most correct, but that doesn't make it right. Just my feelings, sorry.
As always, GO DAWGS!!!!!!!! JUST DO IT RIGHT

There's no need to apologize for anything.

There is a history here of Spooby defending MR with a variety of excuses. He has stated in not so many words that Alabama and others win because of reasons other than superior coaching. I was looking at the post about academic standards through that lens.

Everything said about athletics and reduced standards is true... being right or wrong is an opinion that can go either way.. I was just stating that it's not like he who reduces standards the most wins championships, because that isn't true.

On the idea of right vs wrong... I'm up in the air about it as things stand right now.

The rules of the NFL make the path to pro football difficult unless you go through college. They do not allow drafting out of high school, and for good reason. They do not offer something like the NBA does with a developmental league for those
who don't want to or can't go to college. There is no real option to be a pro football
player other than going through college.