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I agree with AD5....totally.

Don't agree with going back 5 seasons either........2005, SEC Champs......2008 pre-season #1....2009 and beyond, yes, huge decline, problems galore.

Was a "on the fence guy" with CMR the last couple of years but now imo, he has to go. UGA needs a whole new regime to come in and change the program around and re-establish the Face of Georgia Football.

AD5 my reason for starting this thread was to get a feel of where the people that I chat with stand and some of their reasons for that. Some of the places that I have visited do nothing more than run off at the mouth. Here, I find that whatever one thinks is going on at UGA, it can and will be voiced, regardless of others opinions. Punches are thrown here sometimes, but the punches are usually thrown by people that believe it is a fair fight, no sucker punches.

You have said a couple of times that maybe you were on the outside looking in recently, that is what I gathered from your comments and stands on this site. You stood your ground, gave sound reasoning as to why you feel/felt the way you do. Most of the back and forth was more about Richt than the football team itself.

Was glad to see gillette back and posting. He and kentdaddy bantered a bit, but when I look at what both of the guys had to say, enforces my reasons for choosing this site to call home. That is in a way what I am trying to get across.

We have those that think it is an Oline problem, won't go through all of the other positions but recently for many it has moved away from positions to leadership. Even if we go back say two years or a year, that is fine with me. I do know that numbers sometimes do no tell the overall story. Seen that more than once in my lifetime. The decline in UGA football cannot be denied, we need only to think about Memphis and we have what might be the answer.

I picked this quote up this morning from QB's reasoning for picking Auburn over UGA. This statement from Quan Bray tells me a lot.

“I just felt like it was the best fit for me,” Bray told me. “I was comfortable there and I have a real good relationship with all the coaches.”

Now I am not so blind that I don't know that different coaches sway young prospects in different ways. My problem is with the present, the here and now at this point. Too many players are leaving their home state and going to places because of the above statement from Quan Bray.

We will soon see what our chances are for turning this thing around. Not talking years at this point, talking days and months. I hope it can be fixed, there is a leak in the pipes and it will take a good plumber to repair this one.

That is what is frustrating about Richt. We can SEE the talent dropoff; we can SEE the players leaving the state; we can SEE the issues that have been caused-Carver-Columbus; we can see the laziness-the FSU signee who said FSU wanted him more, and the coach in Georgia who stated he called garner to talk about a player and was never called back.

How can CMR see this, and not see the problem?

Look at the OL talent-I doubt we have one player at that position who would start for Bama; DL? NOPE. RB? NO. LB? maybe Houston. CB? MAYBE Boykin. S? NOPE.

Wake up!!!

I think it may actually be better if we can him now, and close recruiting strong with a firebrand like Kirby Smart, and let him him bring over a couple lower level Bama position coaches to promote up and put some energy into this thing before FEB 2.

I am one of those Richt supporters who is now waiting for the coach to show me something. Losing to SC 17-6 was as bad as a loss to them always is, but I wasn't overly concerned. I've only seen one undefeated season in my 48 year lifetime, so 1-1 wasn't killing me.

Losing to Arkansas the way we did also didn't really phase me too much, considering that we weren't supposed to really even be in that game to begin with. The fact that a blown coverage was the cause of the loss hurt, but I was actually somewhat encouraged that we at least had a chance to win that one.

However - the loss to Mississippi State hurt. That had my confidence waning.

But even THAT loss was NOTHING compared to what followed in Colorado. I would go so far as to say that the Colorado game was (and still is) the most discouraging game of the year for me. That game shook my confidence in the leadership more than anything else.

kentdaddy is (seemingly) proud that he was unhappy with Richt in 2006. I guess anything less than 14-0 and undisputed national champions will always leave SOME people wanting more, but I think for the rest of us, truthfully, we were pretty impressed with our team (and even our DC, Martinez) after that Sugar bowl in 1/01/08. But the Colorado game HAD to change some minds. You do NOT play a team THAT BAD, lose, and come away thinking it was just a fluke.

Then when we beat a few teams who just happen to be more horrible than us, some of us (not me) may have started feeling a little better. Playing Florida close, especially this year (as bad as Florida was) did not make me feel better about the way things are going. Being up 21-7 in Auburn did not make me feel better. Beating the hapless Jackets did not and will not make me feel better. And now this. UCF. You have to be joking. Sorry, fellow CMR supporters, but there is no silver lining to this one. You can't say "I see some good on the horizon for this team", no matter how big of a CMR supporter you are.

I have always been a Richt supporter, because I am conservative. I am not one of those people who "sees it coming" in 2006, and feels impending doom after a 12-1 season and a BCS bowl win (slaughter) over Hawaii . . . I'm just not the soothsayer that kentdaddy is. kentdaddy, you impress me a lot - seriously - UGA should probably have you in charge over there - you were probably the only person on planet earth who saw this coming way back then. I'm not one of those people who enjoys the coaching carousel. The thought of going through what 'Bama went through for several years turns my stomach. (BTW - is 'Bama about to put Saban on the hotseat after the disappointing season they had to endure this year? They are UNDENIABLY going backwards from last year. Does anyone "see it coming" for them? )

Anyway, my point is that even the biggest of CMRs defenders has to be feeling like Linus in the pumpkin patch now. "Just wait until next year" sounds pretty stupid. We are losing the best receiver we have, and our recruiting has TANKED. We seem unable to sign talent that sits anywhere in our state. In just the past few months I've watched our recruiting ratings go from top ten to 18th. After that UCF mockery, I wonder if it's just going to get worse.

One of the guys I work with says us UGA fans are delusional. He says Georgia, like VT, has NEVER been a top shelf program, even when we won it all in '80. He says we expect WAY too much - that we will never compete with the likes of Ohio State, Florida, LSU, USC, Oklahoma and Texas. Richt appears to have proven him right this year.

Here is what will happen in 2011, I hate to say it. We will lose to Boise State in the opener - I can't believe I even typed that. Then we will lose to South Carolina. That will end the Mark Richt era. At this point, I'm afraid we may not even win the G-Day game.

I don't post here often, so most of you don't "know" me well at all, but I read the posts almost daily. I like all of you, especially Buc, kentdaddy (yes, I really mean that), and wlayton. I wish everyone the best - please keep up the great posting here on the best forum on the web. I'll be seeing you and hearing from you all on the impending coaching carousel as the year progresses. (Anyone want to go with an "over-under" on how many coaches we are goign to have to hire before we find a "Saban-esque" coach? I'll start with 3.)

Garner was a great recruiter at Tennessee.
Searels did a better job with "lesser" players.
Bobo is Bobo.
I think Richt's staff has gotten a little too comfortable in Athens.
They are all decent people but they simply aren't getting the job done.
I have always admired how Richt allowed his assistants time with their families but business is business.
Georgia Football is a business.

Going to give this one more try, know some think I am off my rocker . . . might be.

Richt has a brother-in-law and his nickname is "Bull". There is a reason for the nickname, Johnson is as tough as they come. At my age I could out run Brad (thanks bulldawg36869) in the forty. Close anyway. Here was a quarterback that was "thrown" into the West Coast Offense under Jon Gruden and came away with a Super Bowl win. What worked for BJ was this . . . . he has a brain, and picked Gruden's system like no one had ever done before.

We have the perfect QB in Murray to run the West Coast Offense. Also, it is an offense that might save his life. Standing in the pocket where Richt and Bobo wanted him to stand almost got the kid killed. All of us know this young man has wheels. That is a good thing, along with an above average arm. Brains, for sure.

We have folks that are being under utilized on the offense, such as Charles, King, Wooten, White, Troupe and many more. If we are lucky enough to get the tight end from Valdosta, makes the West Coast even better for UGA.

Don't know if Johnson would come to UGA, just have this gut feeling that he would. Talent like CL coming in, and he also has wheels, would flourish under Brad Johnson, fact. Richt indicates in his press conference that he is going to be more involved in the offense. What does that say to me, says we will run the same offense that we have ran for his entire coaching career at UGA. That is not change. Even Saban at Bama is playing with the pistol and variations of same.

This is another reason that I question Richt or Bobo and what I think is a lack of vision and properly using their talented players to their fullest. Yep, we have talent. If I am game planning for UGA, as I said before, I can use film from many years back. Not much has changed. Much like running the quarter mile at the drag strip, one four barrel is good, but if I am competing against the rocket next to me and he has two four barrels, next time I am at the strip, my machine has been altered, bet on that. UGA does not change, too predictable year in year out. Fact.

My gut feeling is this . . . Richt will remain coach throughout the 2011 season, win, lose or whatever. Do I think that a change should be made now? If Richt is going to run the offense the same way it has been run, yes. Folks can talk about how many points UGA scored this year, look only to the points we scored in South Carolina, good defense, few points. Then look at the points scored in Memphis, average defense, kids playing hard, with heart, no TD's.

Who knows, maybe UGA goes on a tear, wins the NC, SEC Champions several times. 10/11 wins and undefeated seasons in the future. That would shut this old hard ass up. Show me, DON'T TELL ME what you are going to do. Clay told Liston what he was going to do, and did it.