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10 years 8 months ago - 10 years 8 months ago #59085 by Buc
Hoping you guys will allow me this. Promise it is not being hostile, just asking a question or two that I think is relevant.

While I enjoy cars of the past, big engines, shifting gears, the roar, how does that play out this day and time with advanced electronics, and every major improvement that can be imagined with body weight, and there is no end to "progress". If we go to the drag strip, the rails and funny cars are nothing like they were not that far back. That is called progress.

Gus Malzahn comes back to the SEC and in his first year takes Auburn to the National Championship. How did that happen? This same group of players could not win a SEC game in 2012. See where this is leading?

Some on this board say that we are a pro style offense and that is what we do best. Well, if that is all we have done for X number of years, guess it is what we do best.

Try this on.

In Athens we have a group of running backs that most agree are as a whole the best in the country. Whatever, we do have a lot of very talented running backs. Just how many of the young players will get snaps . . . . 5, 10 or so snaps a game?

How is it that a "high school coach" came to the SEC and kicked butt? He did, whether any of us like it or not. Took that "nothing" team to Pasadena.

Now I see a young defensive coach that has been given the title of Defensive Coordinator. If we look at what he is trying to do, does not take long to see that another recent "high school coach" is changing the way UGA is going to play defense.

We have talked about speed on this board when referring to our players. That talk did not start last year, was way before that. What we will see under this Defensive Coordinator is "speed" like you and I have not seen in Athens.

grantham had to have that "big guy" in the middle, and for the most part on the defensive line. Won't call names but I watched the "big guys" sucking air soon after the second quarter in a lot of games.

Go back to the offensive side. Looked over some talk on this board that goes back 4 or so years ago. Was mentioned that we should look at more "options" that were met with, should not do that. What has happened in the NFL, seeing more and more of the "college game" being incorporated, the same game that the colleges copied the high schools game plans.

I could take this subject on for hours, will give it this shot.

All of the running backs that Richt said he wanted, injuries and such demanded a certain style of recruiting and play calling. When the hell have we seen something new coming from our offense? Is it a good thing to have great young high schoolers come to Athens and wait for an injury or whatever?

Here is the other side of that coin. There are many that point to the amount of points that UGA has scored using this system (pro style). My question is simply this . . . . where has it gotten us? Not where Gus Malzahn has been in a short time. Not where Nick Saban has been recently. Saban running the same system, but we must remember that he has stronger recruiting classes than we do, year after year.

Will be interesting to see what happens when Auburn comes to Athens in 2014. I don't like Auburn, but I see a team that has less overall talent on the offense than does UGA.

Summation . . . . don't like seeing young players with great talent not being used. grantham and Garner did that on the defensive side. How long have we been in the pro set? When was the last time in the past 13 years that we participated in the National Championship? Close does not count.

Would I change some things with the talent that I see in Athens, yep.

If you take this as being ugly . . . . you are too damn thin skinned.
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10 years 8 months ago #59086 by yankeedawg1
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This plays into an early thread which I said that not having AM will cause us to look closely

At what HM does or doesn't do. I can see CMB adding plays run from different sets other than

Our typical pro lineup. As it has been pointed out correctly CMB maturing into a OC from a

QB coach has taken time. I feel he is going to seek any and all possibilities to gain an

Advantage. He sure had us screening more than I can remember. I know the comeback is not

With cmr he will veto. Any form of offensive change

might have been in the past just think it may be possible this year. GO Dawgs

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10 years 8 months ago - 10 years 8 months ago #59088 by Dawg With Style
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Agreed with this much talent we can run any style offense just get creative and get the ball into the playmakers hands.

Rest (get healthy)Gurley and let's see Thurman do his thing G-Day.

How Bout them Dawgs!!!!!!!


Ride it like you stole it
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10 years 8 months ago #59089 by yankeedawg1
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Had a flash. Old folk have that happen alot

As Buc pointed out OL love to fire off and run block get the hogs in a lather

Love to see us run some toss sweeps get those D line men moving

We have several backs that love to run over DB's with several more enroute


Student body left hat on hat let the express run

To many days until Climpson


However me thinks the time will be well spent. No Vandy sand in 2014

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10 years 8 months ago #59090 by sadlerdawg
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Several of us have been saying we need some wrinkles on offense for years, if not an entire new system.

The SMART era CONTINUES!!!!!!
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10 years 8 months ago - 10 years 8 months ago #59091 by wlayton
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Great posts and I understand the logic and reasoning behind the posts.

But for me, our problems have been on the D side of the ball with ST's "sprinkled" in. I admit that I'm biased toward the pro style offense but we have been scoring enough points (plenty imo) to win every game we play....the D and ST's have been our "achilles heel". If we could stop people our scoring average would be even higher from having on average 2-3 more possessions per game.

Take FSU's D last year. I firmly believe we would have been undefeated if we had had a D that was just close to theirs. We all know great D's win in the SEC and look no further than Bama. They had great D's and ran a pro style offense that wasn't as good as ours imo.

Last opinion for me is the offenses like Malzahn's, Meyer's and Oregon's are usually eventually figured out and are stopped. In saying that, I believe Malzahn's will be too and he will have to adjust accordingly. Great D's will beat those "gimmick" offenses. Oregon has been unbeatable (suppostedly) every year the last 3-4 years but great D's shut them down... LSU, AU, Stanford twice. Teams figured out Meyer and shut him down......teams will figure our Malzahn and he will have to adjust as well....IMO.

For me....the pro style offense is a more flexible offense. It can pound out 1st downs when needing to at the end of games, it has the capability of coming from behind with a great passing attack and can control games with its balanced attack......very versatile. You shut down a spread and they are done (UF, Oregon, GT, TT etc).

Bottom line for me.....we score plenty, build a great D (and ST's) and we not only score more but we win it all.

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