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13 years 4 months ago #42236 by wlayton
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Wartdawg wrote: What Paterno probably thought in the very best case was that what was reported to him was an exaggeration or a misunderstanding, and it could be swept under the table as to not tarnish his beloved PSU.

Worst case is he figured it would come to an end after he was caught, and it could be swept
under the table as to not tarnish his beloved PSU.

See the commonality here... "and it could be swept under the table as to not tarnish his beloved PSU."

Besides the obvious fact that there extends a moral obligation beyond man created legal requirements,
I have something else to add...

Innocent (but incredibly stupid and naive) mistake or willing cover up... Paterno had to go.. immediately, and I don't give a rat's behind if it was falling on a sword or being thrown under
a bus. Those jacklegs protesting it are just like Paterno... more concerned with protecting a
legacy. They are concerning themselves with that more than they are concerning themselves with
children who have to deal with this stuff for the rest of their lives. I don't give a flying
hoot about what happened to Paterno. He more than anyone else in college football owned and
ruled the Penn St empire, and it happened on his watch and he can't claim a lack of any
knowledge as even a feeble excuse.

Want to do something productive with it? Stop worrying about protesting the treatment of
JoePa and put some effort into organizations designed to prevent the sexual abuse of children.

They are the victims here... not Joe Paterno.



Dead on....great post.

PVBDAWG

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13 years 4 months ago #42238 by Buc
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Wartdawg wrote: What Paterno probably thought in the very best case was that what was reported to him was an exaggeration or a misunderstanding, and it could be swept under the table as to not tarnish his beloved PSU.

Worst case is he figured it would come to an end after he was caught, and it could be swept
under the table as to not tarnish his beloved PSU.

See the commonality here... "and it could be swept under the table as to not tarnish his beloved PSU."

Besides the obvious fact that there extends a moral obligation beyond man created legal requirements,
I have something else to add...

Innocent (but incredibly stupid and naive) mistake or willing cover up... Paterno had to go.. immediately, and I don't give a rat's behind if it was falling on a sword or being thrown under
a bus. Those jacklegs protesting it are just like Paterno... more concerned with protecting a
legacy.
They are concerning themselves with that more than they are concerning themselves with
children who have to deal with this stuff for the rest of their lives. I don't give a flying
hoot about what happened to Paterno. He more than anyone else in college football owned and
ruled the Penn St empire, and it happened on his watch and he can't claim a lack of any
knowledge as even a feeble excuse.

Want to do something productive with it? Stop worrying about protesting the treatment of
JoePa and put some effort into organizations designed to prevent the sexual abuse of children.

They are the victims here... not Joe Paterno.


Truth . . .

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13 years 4 months ago #42240 by Mike Honcho
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Wartdawg wrote: What Paterno probably thought in the very best case was that what was reported to him was an exaggeration or a misunderstanding, and it could be swept under the table as to not tarnish his beloved PSU.

Worst case is he figured it would come to an end after he was caught, and it could be swept
under the table as to not tarnish his beloved PSU.

See the commonality here... "and it could be swept under the table as to not tarnish his beloved PSU."

Besides the obvious fact that there extends a moral obligation beyond man created legal requirements,
I have something else to add...

Innocent (but incredibly stupid and naive) mistake or willing cover up... Paterno had to go.. immediately, and I don't give a rat's behind if it was falling on a sword or being thrown under
a bus. Those jacklegs protesting it are just like Paterno... more concerned with protecting a
legacy. They are concerning themselves with that more than they are concerning themselves with
children who have to deal with this stuff for the rest of their lives. I don't give a flying
hoot about what happened to Paterno. He more than anyone else in college football owned and
ruled the Penn St empire, and it happened on his watch and he can't claim a lack of any
knowledge as even a feeble excuse.

Want to do something productive with it? Stop worrying about protesting the treatment of
JoePa and put some effort into organizations designed to prevent the sexual abuse of children.

They are the victims here... not Joe Paterno.



One of the best pieces of commentary I've ever read...here or anywhere. A BIG amen on this one Wart

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13 years 4 months ago #42245 by UGAChemDawg
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Sandusky deserves to rot in prison for this.

However, to say Joe Paterno, a man who literally gave his life to the university, is a pedophile enabler is just wrong. An error in judgement does not negate all the good he has done and he does not deserve to go out like this. He should have been allowed to finish out the season.

If he actually believed that what Sandusky was accused of was true, he would have suspended him and gone to the authorities.

A graduate student came up to him and told him that someone he had known and trusted for a long time was doing something evil and perverted. Of course he isn't going to believe the graduate student! He reported the incident to his superiors as required, but the fact that the graduate student didn't react more strongly at the time he saw the incident taking place would naturally lead one to conclude that he is lying.

Hindsight is always 20/20 but Paterno certainly was not intentionally trying to cover up a crime or protect someone he knew was molesting children, which is what he is being accused of.

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13 years 4 months ago #42246 by UGAChemDawg
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As an analogy, imagine that someone you barely knew came up to you and told you your dad was cheating on your mom, or your best friend was involved in a white collar crime ring imbezzling money from his company. Of course you'd shrug it off.

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13 years 4 months ago - 13 years 4 months ago #42247 by wlayton
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First of all, when it comes to TEN YEAR OLD CHILDREN, it certainly DOES negate what Paterno has done for the school if he had knowledge of what happened....don't be so naive that he didn't know what happened.

Secondly....how do you know how the graduate assistant acted when telling Paterno?? Nobody witnessed their meeting, just Paterno's take on it to the AD. I certainly don't buy it that Paterno told the AD that he didn't know any details on the incident.....the first thing out of ANYBODY'S mouth would have been...."what did you see"? Paterno had a moral and ethical obligation to make sure the info had reached the authorities, either by the administration or if they dropped the ball, by himself.

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