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15 years 3 weeks ago #24986 by LimeyDawg
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2001 we were 5-3 eight games into the season before ending 8-4. In '96 we were 3-5 under Donnan and finished 5-6 (the last time we had a losing year). In '93 the Dawg team was 4-4 at this point in the season. That year, we also finished 5-6. Donnan had 3 of 5 seasons with 4 or more losses (60%). In '90, Ray Goff's team was 4-4 before losing the rest of the games and finishing 4-7. Goff was 5 of 7 for 4 or more losses (71%) Before that, it was Dooley's '79 Dawgs that went 4-4. Dooley had 12 of 25 seasons (48%) where he had 4 or more losses. Johnny Griffith? 3 of 3. Wally Butts? 13 of 22 (59%). Harry Mehre was 50%. (I left out Joel Hunt because he coached one year: '38).

So, now were at a point where CMR is facing his third four-loss season. That makes him 33%. If this does turn out to be a losing season, CMR will be .111 in that category. Of coaches with five or more seasons: Donnan .200, Goff .286 (and that's not including the two .500 seasons), Dooley .040 (1 losing season and 3 at .500), Butts .364, Mehre .300.

A great many of those guys have buildings named after them. (I believe Lipscomb has toilets named after Goff and Donnan, but perhaps that was just a rumor.) I guess the point of all this is that the numbers show what CMR has brought to the program. 13 years between losing seasons isn't that tough in context, but I understand the flavor is bitter in the season.

I'm not ready to join the fire CMR bandwagon. In fact, it will take quite some doing to get me on that bus, but I'm firmly in the camp of those who believe coaching changes need to happen.

Know who was the last QB to lead a losing team for Georgia? Mike Bobo. I mention this because our buddy Joe Cox has said that he wants to be grad assistant after this year. I understand too that it is a non-sequitur (that is, doesn't follow logically) that poor on field performance leads to poor coaching ability. Of course, there are many more examples of the opposite of that working out just fine. What scares me is that perhaps CMR's blind love and devotion will catapult Joe Cox into a coordinator's role here, and we have a repeat of this year's debacle.

Joe has failed. He tried. He gets points for his commitment, but this is a big boys' game and if you can't play at this level then step aside. I think Logan Gray got a stiff shaft this year by having to take a back seat. You can't get that game-ready mentality in practice. He needs reps. I only hope Aaron Murray is treated better because he's our future.

This season hurts. It tastes bitter when I have to explain it away as \"we're just not good this season.\" I do, however, want to clarify that. It's not saying we don't have talent because we've got more than we deserve at this point. It's not that we don't have a good HC. The three-ring circus that is Bobo, Martinez and Cox, however, is only funny if you are an out-of-towner coming to watch the train wreck. This is the part of the equation that is broken. It's the part that needs to be fixed before we get back to winning. I'm telling you now, the worst thing we can hear is that we will be seeing more of Bobo and Martinez next year, or that Bobo has been replaced by Cox. If that doesn't make you throw up in your mouth, nothing else will.

Of course, we'll be back next year. Some of us will be on this forum all year long, but we'll all be back next season to cheer on the Dawgs, talk about our hopes for the season and bitch when those hopes get trampled. And as long as THAT never changes, we're going to be okay.

GO DAWGS.

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15 years 3 weeks ago #24989 by TopDiggidyDawg
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What is so wrong with Bobo? I don't really get all of the Bobo hate, I understand and agree with the Martinez hate, but why Bobo? I don't think Mike Bobo is a bad coordinator. Maybe not the best we've ever had, but he is not terrible. I will be happy when we get rid of Willie, then if we're still not back at the top (because of the OFFENSE) then we'll see about taking Mike's head off as well.

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15 years 3 weeks ago #24990 by OldSouthDawg
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I agree with everything you say except Bobo, he has had to play with a 2nd string Qb and no dominate RB, since stafford and moreno left us early high and dry!! plus Im sure he would have ran the ball more, but when your always playing catch up cause your def sux or your QB is throwing interceptions it changes your game plan. So I would give bobo one more yr, But as we all know WM must go!!! BUT I agree when people say let CMR go, That is just Crazy!!! look at his record vs everyone else and he is in the top 5. I mean cmon look at what shape we were in before he got here. Give him a chance to make changes at the end of the yr. I think he will do the right thing when the season is over Im sure he will not make changes in coaching till then.

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15 years 3 weeks ago #24991 by OldSouthDawg
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Sorry i had a typo I dont agree when people say let CMR go!!

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15 years 3 weeks ago #24992 by big dawg 3
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TDD CMB is not terrible if you want to be a middle of the road SEC team. I don't hate him. He actually played at UGA and I respect that. He is obviously a pretty good QB coach. You don't have to be a great player to be a good position coach, but just because you are a good position coach that doesn't make you a coordinator. What has he done to prove that he can get us to a NC? The answer is nothing. I am sure that I will be corrected if I'm wrong, but I think that the first game he called the offense all by himself was HAWAII. It may have been VT the year before. It really doesn't matter. He has had talent running out both ears ever since he was given the position and we can't even get to the SEC championship game. Our offense is horrible in big games. CWM being relieved of his duties is the worst possible thing that can happen to CMB. His crutch will be gone. I have said that he is not that good all year and he has not proven me wrong yet.

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15 years 3 weeks ago #24993 by LimeyDawg
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Last losing season was 96. In that year, the Dawgs had 1471 rushing yards (133.7/gm), 2536 passing (230.5/gm) for a total of 4007 yds. To date, with only 4 games left, we have 877 rushing yards (109.6/gm), 1752 passing (219/gm), for a total of 2629. That puts us on pace for 3934 total yards. The offense has only been worse (statistically) in 3 of the last 20 years. How else to judge an OC? I don't buy the idea that the talent is worse this year (okay, except Cox). The talent is loaded with potential. There is only one person responsible for developing that potential, and that is Mike Bobo. It's a tough gig. But he's failing, and there has to be some kind of responsibility for that failure. It would be different if the offense was firing on all cylinders while Willie's defense continues to sleep, but that's not the case. We haven't looked good against any team of note all season long, and it's because the offense is anemic. This isn't hate, it's the truth. I'm open-minded though. I'd be happy for somebody to change my mind and show me how this is not Mike Bobo's albatross.

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