Richt to Ruins.........

Not only that, but are we forgetting that Dooley used to have disappointing years ALL THE TIME? After he won his SECOND SEC CHAMPIONSHIP in 1968, he had two sub-par seasons in '69 and '70 before going 11-1 in '71 and nearly winning the conference again (sound familiar?). Between the 1976 championship season and 1980, Dooley had his only losing season (1977) and a 6-5 year in 1979. Let's not forget that Dooley had three chances to win the National Championship -- in '76, '80 and '82 -- and spit the bit in the Sugar Bowl twice. In fact, he only won ONE Sugar Bowl, despite going six times. Dooley could NEVER beat Auburn, especially when it counted. We could have won the SEC in '71, '75, '78, and '79 had we just beat Auburn.

That said, DOOLEY WAS A GREAT COACH! He is considered the greatest coach we've ever had at UGA, and by all accounts I agree. Richt is, so far, BETTER THAN DOOLEY THROUGH SIX YEARS. Even in our most down year last year, we destroyed #5 Auburn, beat Tech, and won our bowl game.

Are we forgetting that Goff had two incredible seasons and that Donnan never had what we'd call a \"bad\" season? Were they great coaches? Hell no!

Are we forgetting that Dawg Nation suffered through an entire decade of mediocrity under our SECOND best ever coach, Wally Butts? We went through an ELEVEN-YEAR SEC DROUGHT between '48 and '59.

As far as recruiting goes, yes Richt has won with his own players. Quentin Moses was Richt's recruit. So was DJ Shockley, QB of our '05 championship team. So was Thomas Brown.

Dawg3447, if you're unable to talk, don't.

dapolla, that says it ALL. Thanks for having \"the backs\" of the posters on this great forum. There's a great comradery on this forum with a lot of classy people and no room for posters with slanderous insults. Once we meet, the drinks are on me.

BTW it was 1000 yard rusher! Wow, substandard performance is acceptable to you and you don't want to blame the man in charge for the decisions his own people make! I am quite sure that regardless of how \"well-read\" you think you are I am not the \"One\" person in the bulldog nation that thinks Mark is responsible and should be held accountable . Also it concerns me not that you think my comments are slanderous, they have not even been close to such. Richt and Dooley were in 2 totally different era's of the game, and then to bring Wally Butts into the conversation.....Thats stretching. Either way I think we are Dawg fans and I am intelligent enough to understand that support the dawgs I don't need you or anybody else for that matter to agree with me. I am just shining a light on what obviously in here is a sore spot. No big deal, Please stop using youth as an excuse also, I hold my dawgs in high regard no matter what conference we play in and yes the SEC is tough and no question the best, that being said We are not supposed to loose to UT,UF,and GT period, let alone Vandy, and Kentucky(This year is also not an exception). Its the job of the coaching staff to get players ready to play and anytime or anyone who thinks different knows not what they speak. Whether they are young or not there used to be a celebrated tradition with respect to our school, on that note I raise you a Quincy Carter, Garrison Hearst, Hines Ward, Champ Bailey, and any others anyone else cares to add with regards to talented and productive freshmen. As for coaching, Mike Leech at Texas Tech, Will Muschamp(DC@Auburn former DAWG), Butch Davis (now @ UNC), Major Applewhite(OC @ Alabama...still young but enormous upside), Brian Van Gorder, Mike Bellotti (Oregon), Jeff Tedford(Cal), Ty Willingham(UW ) and Bob Stoops(OU). I could have added one more but it would probably gotten me kicked out of the forum(even though I too despise him). So please stop with the oh there is no better coach because like with all aspects in life there are always those better suited for the position. I know a few of you will ? the major Applewhite suggestion based on us winning at UA, But I can accept that. Talent is still talent and lucky for us someone realized that when converting R.Edwards to RB and it wasn't Goff! And yes I do remember those years where he was the coach I was in the Army so luckily I didn't have to suffer through the \"Goff\" era in person, but it hurt just as bad watching on tv the tragic waste of talent. And yes I do want Martinez fired in the Middle of the season. I called no one a child I asked for an adult response, there is a difference \"Well Read\"!

Yes Rodney is great!

Maybe I should have been more specific. Pick coaches who are available. Tedford, Leach, Bellotti and Stoops aren't going anywhere. They're entrenched at their schools. Stoops has won a national championship and half of the Big Twelve Championship games that have ever been one. Bellotti and Tedford have people - including myself - believing that their schools will contend for national championships soon. Leach...well, TTU deserves Mike Leach, and he deserves them.

Butch Davis just got to UNC, so they're not letting him go. Plus, he hasn't proven he can win there.

No one in this country would agree with you that Will Muschamp or Major Applewhite is even ready to head coach in a major conference, let alone that either of them would be a \"better choice\" than Mark Richt.

I'm not saying -- nor is anyone else here saying, I don't think -- that Mark Richt is not responsible or should not be accountable for how the Dawgs are doing. But you seem to be the only one saying we should out-and-out fire him and get someone new because you're impatient. The great coaches -- the National Championship coaches -- both won early and then suffered a drop-off. Butts won two SEC Championships and a National Championship in his first eight years. He won another SEC Championship in his tenth and then experienced an eleven-year drop off. In 22 years he won four SEC titles. Dooley won two SEC Championships in his first five years and then didn't win another one for eight years. Richt has won three divisional titles and two conferences in his first five years. As far as I can tell, HE IS FOLLOWING OUR STORIED AND RESPECTED TRADITION PERFECTLY.

Don't tell me who we should and should not be losing to, especially Tennessee. Before Richt got to Georgia we hadn't beaten UT in Knoxville since 1980. Donnan beat them once, ending a NINE YEAR DROUGHT. And as all the Urnge Idiots pointed out last year, Tennessee owns the all-time series, which has been played LESS THAN THIRTY-FIVE TIMES. EVERY COACH WHO HAS COACHED GEORGIA HAS AT SOME POINT LOST TO VANDY AND KENTUCKY. Dooley did it in the same season -- just like Richt! -- in 1973. If you truly believe that the SEC is a conference that is a cut above the rest, then you must necessarily believe that it is not -- like the Big Twelve or the Big Ten or the ACC or the Big East -- boringly top-heavy. You must believe that teams from the SEC can beat any other team in the nation, INCLUDING EACH OTHER.

And you bring up a point that we should not be losing to Georgia Tech...RICHT HAS NEVER LOST TO TECH.

I understand that you never directly called anyone a child. But by asking for adult responses, you were either implying that our responses were childish, or you were requesting porn. Either way, it's not appropriate for discussion, at least on this forum.

By the way, in an argument with me, NEVER bring up Quincy Carter as fuel for your side. Donnan didn't waste his talent; he wasted it himself.

You argue that I should not have brought up Dooley -- since he coached in a different era -- and yet one of your earliest posts introduced that idea. I believe the phrase \"DOOLEY SAVE US\" was used. I would argue with you that, while Dooley and Richt coach in different eras, your coaching choices are no less illogical. We always tout the SEC as being a different conference than other conferences, a cut above. Bellotti and Tedford coach in the PAC-10. Does success in the Pac-10 necessarily translate into success in the SEC? Ed Orgeron might argue with you, as he was the last successful Oregon coach to leave his school to head up a program here. Leach is a Big Twelve coach who likes to spread the field and pass all the time. With all of our touting of speed in the SEC, especially in the defensive secondaries, do you really think that Leach's pass-happy never-run offense would work? Or would his QBs just get picked off all the time?

Finally -- and this is really the main point -- your posts are pretty low-quality. You say nothing constructive, write in run-on sentences, have spelling errors and punctuation omissions, and generally display no grasp of proper grammar. Moreover, many of your arguments against our points really are rather childish, and run along the lines of \"That point is stupid! What a stupid idea!\" This is unfortunate because it obscures some of the more intelligent and pertinent points you make about coaching, our talent, and our performance over the last season and a half. I know that there are Dawg fans who are not bright -- my first game as a student was highlighted by another student throwing up five rows ahead of me...half an hour before a 12:30 kickoff! -- but I in no way have to converse with them.

And as for your complaints about what we are saying about you...well, we've said nothing that wasn't deserved. Either find another forum or grow some class.

dawg3447 wrote:

Wow, thats cute, I assume they dont have an age minimum for this forum. with a comment like that! Can some adult UGA fans chime in................

Lets ease up there a bit sparky. We are all on the same team and wlayton is one of the best members we have here.

I am also a Richt skeptic, but lets get Muschamp in here on the defense and see what happens.