HAHAHA!!! SEC still undefeated against tOSU

THE Ohio State University has vacated its wins from the 2010 season, including the Sugar Bowl victory over Arkansas. That was their first win over an SEC opponent in the post season, which means they're still 0-10 against us.

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UGAChemDawg, if Ohio State gets away with this, it will move college football back 100 years.

Athletic Director trying to make a deal with the NCAA? Ohio State seems to know how to do that, referring of course to the NCAA allowing the BS that went on in New Orleans last year. Let the cheaters play and then suspend them for 5 games the following season.

This is the second time that Ohio State has offered a deal. A deal that has no lasting effects on their program. No mention in their offer to the NCAA about losing SCHOLARSHIPS. Southern California best I remember lost 30 scholarships. One player for SoCal caused this problem, Reggie Bush. Ohio State has several players basically doing the same thing that Bush did. Where the hell is the logic in the proposal by Smith at Ohio State.

Now we have Ohio State saying that they jumped all over the infractions and released their head football coach. Anyone remember the President of Ohio State making certain comments about not messing with the football coach, being more important to Ohio State that himself.

Not to take issue with you and the enjoyment derived from Ohio State still having problems with the SEC, just seems to me that it is a much larger issue that HAS to be addressed.

Also note that the $250,000 fine that Ohio State had placed on Tressel prior to his being released/fired or whatever has now been rescinded. The VESTED ONE (Tressel) keeps a quarter mil.

NCAA has its back to the wall. Go lightly on Ohio State and college football will lose all or what little integrity is left.

My vote. Give them the same damn treatment that they gave to SMU. I challenge anyone to show me the difference between what both programs did.

By the way, Jon Gruden makes me sick to my stomach. He is now interviewing Pryor on ESPN as if nothing happened. Too many of the folks on this board do not know what a butt wipe Jon Gruden is. Some of us down this way know and call it like it is.

Don't mean to take away from your thread, just feel that there is no happiness in this situation.

Buc wrote:

UGAChemDawg, if Ohio State gets away with this, it will move college football back 100 years.

Athletic Director trying to make a deal with the NCAA? Ohio State seems to know how to do that, referring of course to the NCAA allowing the BS that went on in New Orleans last year. Let the cheaters play and then suspend them for 5 games the following season.

This is the second time that Ohio State has offered a deal. A deal that has no lasting effects on their program. No mention in their offer to the NCAA about losing SCHOLARSHIPS. Southern California best I remember lost 30 scholarships. One player for SoCal caused this problem, Reggie Bush. Ohio State has several players basically doing the same thing that Bush did. Where the hell is the logic in the proposal by Smith at Ohio State.

Now we have Ohio State saying that they jumped all over the infractions and released their head football coach. Anyone remember the President of Ohio State making certain comments about not messing with the football coach, being more important to Ohio State that himself.

Not to take issue with you and the enjoyment derived from Ohio State still having problems with the SEC, just seems to me that it is a much larger issue that HAS to be addressed.

Also note that the $250,000 fine that Ohio State had placed on Tressel prior to his being released/fired or whatever has now been rescinded. The VESTED ONE (Tressel) keeps a quarter mil.

NCAA has its back to the wall. Go lightly on Ohio State and college football will lose all or what little integrity is left.

My vote. Give them the same damn treatment that they gave to SMU. I challenge anyone to show me the difference between what both programs did.

By the way, Jon Gruden makes me sick to my stomach. He is now interviewing Pryor on ESPN as if nothing happened. Too many of the folks on this board do not know what a butt wipe Jon Gruden is. Some of us down this way know and call it like it is.

Don't mean to take away from your thread, just feel that there is no happiness in this situation.

I would love to see tOSU get the death penalty as much as anyone, but I don't think it will ever be used again. Still, not even taking away scholarships and making them sit out of bowl games for the next few years is reminisent of the type of "justice" we saw in Orlando several days ago.

One thing that I can't stand though is the NCAA allowing schools to vacate wins, meaning they treat the game like it was never played. The appropriate thing to do when a violation is serious enough that the win should be vacated, is to make them forfeit the game and reverse the decision and declare the opposing team the victor. Hit their official record and their winning percentage and the individual players' stats.

What I think should happen is when both the NCAA and the cheating party know that there has been a serious violation of the rules as is the case with Ohio State . . . . bring the hammer down then and there.

What the NCAA did in the Ohio State case was say we know that you are guilty, we however are going to let you play the game, and take you to the wood shed a few months later. In my opinion and some of the folks that I associate with in football, the NCAA is aiding and abetting. The NCAA is more of a villan to college football than is Ohio State.

Poor Coach Tressel. Jackass now will keep the $250,000 supposed fine. What a damn joke, and here again we see the manuvering of rules. All of a sudden Ohio State University in its wisdom does not want Tressel to come after the school for the money. They made that decision really quick . . . . what about all of the cheating prior to that. The president and athletic director of Ohio State are as guilty as the recipients of the cars, money, tats and who knows what else. They turned they heads for years, knew nothing about the cheating. If that is the case, why did they fire Tressel. New found facts . . . . I say BS.

Let us face the facts . . . there are more universities under the "supposed" watchful eye of the NCAA than ever before. Do I for a minute think that there is not justification for this. There is every reason to believe that many schools are playing with the NCAA, trying to see just how far they can push the "so called" NCAA rules. Some are willing to go to the wall with their efforts, take a focused look at Auburn recently.

It bothers me when an athletic director or president of a school first does not admit to cheating and then admitting they cheated, then say it was only the head coach that was to blame. Disregard the fact that not one but many of these players were driving automobiles around campus that many out here buying season tickets cannot afford to drive. Won't go into the families of players and their relationship with folks that make it possible for these players attending Ohio State to live the good life.

Went back and watched the Jon Gruden taping with Pryor. I did this because you mentioned the Casey Anthony trial in Orlando. I live 50 miles east of Orlando and I know that this case has this particular area aroused. Trying not to use the language that most in this area are using. Something like drunken sailors are supposed to sound like. Point being, if you watch Jon Gruden and Pryor on ESPN, they are laughing, cutting up and you see nothing but smiles on Pryor's face. He could give a damn less that Ohio State is going to suffer one way or another, and his ass is going to the NFL and probably end up making big bucks. Where is the justice in that. Trial over for Anthony and what do we see . . . . smiles, back slapping, everyone victorious in the defense camp. One problem, what about Caylee Anthony, the child that was murdered. This makes folks want to celebrate. This nation and its schools are going to hell in a hand basket if some of us don't step up and say enough is enough.

My penalty for Ohio State. They not only forfeit football games, they don't play football for x number of years. Do we really want to see college athletics cleaned up, especially football, drop that bomb on Ohio State's butt and you will see every college in America stop the bull spit. No doubt in this old fart's mind whatsoever.

Hey Buc, I for one couldnt agree with you more. I feel too much Money and politics now invovled even in college football now and its corrupted our sport as it already has our country. Also one point on casy anothony, it makes me sick also to see any of them smile and celebrate while that little girl is dead, and I have heard none of them or the jurors say well if she didnt do it then why arent we now out here on a man hunt for who did? must be a child killer lose in the orlando area and I see no posse? anyway jus IMO

OldSouthDawg wrote:

Hey Buc, I for one couldnt agree with you more. I feel too much Money and politics now invovled even in college football now and its corrupted our sport as it already has our country. Also one point on casy anothony, it makes me sick also to see any of them smile and celebrate while that little girl is dead, and I have heard none of them or the jurors say well if she didnt do it then why arent we now out here on a man hunt for who did? must be a child killer lose in the orlando area and I see no posse? anyway jus IMO

A damn good opinion at that OldSouthDawg!

Opinion from a guy that played football at OSU. Incredible.

By former Ohio State LB Bobby Carpenter
First-round pick (18th overall) by the Cowboys in 2006 draft

They’re obviously trying to come out and get ahead of this thing a little bit,
showing they’re making strides toward mending what happened. The vacating of
wins, to me, is something the NCAA needs to get away from completely because I’m
not sure what the purpose of that is.

When you look at the situation, a lot of people try to compare it to USC, which
is not even really a comparable situation in my opinion. With Reggie Bush
receiving extra benefits in excess of six figures, and here you have a couple of
guys who received some tattoos and sold some memorabilia—which was
theirs—totaling much less than that.

Former Ohio State linebacker and Dallas Cowboys first-round pick Bobby Carpenter
spoke on Ohio State's recent self-sanctions. (AP Photo)(Jim Tressel) was
punished, he lost his job, and he was the main party responsible. And the other
people involved, they’ve been punished as well because one guy (Terrelle Pryor)
won’t be playing anymore at all the others are going to miss half of their
season. So yeah, I feel that’s enough.

The biggest problem I’ve always had with the NCAA and their punishments is they
punish the university and they punish the other players who were not at fault at
all with the bans and the scholarship reductions. But whereas in this
circumstance, you’re able to punish the guys who committed the rules
infractions, so in my opinion, that should be more than enough.

At USC, Reggie Bush and Pete Carroll were already gone, and they had no recourse
with those guys. But if the people are there, they should be punished
accordingly, that’s my opinion on it. Once they’re gone, it’s tough and
somebody’s got to take the sword, and generally it’s the university and the
people who have no fault of their own who have to suffer the repercussions.