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15 years 10 months ago #19774 by golferdawg
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Swampdawg, their out of confrence schedule wasn't bad. they are like Boise St. no one wants to play them. they just play in a pretty weak confrence. i don't want them on our schedule anytime soon do you? because thats the only way they will get respect from you and the rest of the country. do they deserve the NC title? probably not! they should be ranked in the top 3 at least.

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15 years 10 months ago #19776 by dapolla
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Buc wrote:

Also, your Panthers are sitting in a pretty good position now, good luck to them, strong team when they all contribute.


I wonder if that's because there're so many Utes on the team! Steve Smith, Jordan Grose, Maake Kemoeatu...

Or because there're so many Dawgs...Thomas Davis, John Kasay, Charles Johnson...

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15 years 10 months ago #19777 by dapolla
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Swampdog wrote:

Utah deserves a ton of credit for overcoming every obstacle placed before it. However, they are not the best NCAA Division 1 team football team. If they desire to achieve the status of being national champions then they must schedule some heavier contenders during the regular season. It would be counterproductive to the overall quality of college football to encourage and/or reward the strategy of backing into a championship via soft regular season schedules.


It's not Utah's fault that Michigan stunk this year. They scheduled UM a few years ago, when the Wolverines were good. And how is beating a team ranked 4th at the time (Alabama), a team ranked 12th at the time (BYU), and a team that will finish the season ranked in the top ten (TCU) \"backing into a championship via soft regular season schedules\"?

Swampdog, with all due respect, your argument doesn't hold water. Utah played just as tough a schedule as Florida this year. Who did Florida beat? Alabama. That's basically it. Two ACC teams in a season when the ACC was down, Kentucky, Vandy, SCarolina and Tennessee in a bad year and Hawai'i doesn't count as a great schedule. LSU wasn't a national power this year either. That's not Florida's fault, but I guarantee that Utah could have beaten Hawai'i, Kentucky, SCarolina, and Tennessee this year. On a good day, they would have beaten LSU and Vandy as well.

Sorry, I just don't buy Utah \"backing in\" because they play in the MWC. The Mountain West was the second best conference in football this year, behind the Big Twelve. Yes, I said it. SEC=#3 this year. Why? The Big 12 had four teams (OU, OSU, UT and TTU). The MWC had three (BYU, UU, and TCU). The SEC had two (UA and UF). That's it. Simple as that.

Did I mention that the Utes were victorious in the Sugar Bowl over a team that was #1 for half the year?

I concede nothing. Utah are the national champs.

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15 years 10 months ago #19780 by wlayton
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dapolla, really can't argue your logic but would you bet your life on Utah against UF or USC? Believe both would beat them 2 TD's easy.

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15 years 10 months ago #19788 by dapolla
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wlayton, I would have said the same thing about Utah vs. 'Bama. Would have said the same thing about Utah vs. TCU, to be honest, as well as TCU played this year. It just seems unfair to me that BYU won the national title in 1984 simply by being the last man standing, whereas Utah has actually come closer than ANYONE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY to proving it \"on the field,\" yet they're going to get left out in the cold by at least one poll and probably two. There's no excuse for it.

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15 years 10 months ago #19791 by wlayton
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Man, I REALLY agree with you about BYU in 1984!!! One of THE worst NC's ever crowned. Only had to beat a 6-4, maybe 6-5 Michigan team for the title. Michigan was terrible.

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