Where do you stand on the GREAT ISSUE: Playoffs?

DawgSpeare wrote:

It is truly sad and disappointing to see kentdaddy make such a mockery of my earlier post. The very idea that he could possibly have interviewed some 8,000 football players is just too much...just too much.

My actual interviews of over 3,000 players is obviously more realistic and is a large enough population to qualify for a scientific sample of the larger, complete population. It should be quite clear at this point that by simple extrapolation of the data from my interviews to the larger population of all NCAA football players, results in the inescapable conclusion that the overwhelming majority of players DO NOT WANT A PLAYOFF!

I cannot respond now. I am busy extrapolating data from 8000 players.....................Be back soon!

Dapollas story of the Panthers game has no relevance to college football. ANy playoff scenario would require the vast majority of teams be conference winners and the remaining at large bids would be very highly ranked.

I have the receipt stating that I currently own this debate baby!

dapolla wrote:

Like I said, the best team in the country in ANY sport rarely wins a playoff.

I'm about 11 pages behind in this discussion, so forgive me if I retread ground that has already been walked on. I've been having a similar discussion with my closest friends who live in Big 12 country. They were, um, griping that our beloved Dawgs might make it to the BCS championship game without winning the conference. Here is what I wrote to them... it seems pertinent given what Dapolla has written here... with a few parenthetical comments to help...

When I was a freshman wrestling for Grant (high school) we went to the conference wrestling tournament, the old Mid-State Conference, back before everything was divided into districts. I had won a few matches that year, including a couple in the All-City that year, but not very many. When Dean Choate went to the coaches' meeting for the seedings, he argued for seeding me fourth in the tournament because I had beaten a couple of the other guys in the conference. The other coaches wanted the kid from Del City, whom I had beaten once before, to be seeded fourth. Dean Choate's response was \"well, just turn 'em loose.\" He wanted me to wrestle the kid from Del City the first match to show who was the better wrestler. He tells me this when we were meeting after the brackets were set and says, in front of the team no less, \"And you'd damn well better beat him... or don't come back.\" I went out and beat the kid. The only thing Choate said during the match was in the second period when he said, \"Pin him now.\" I complied. Showed everyone that I was better than him. Of course, being on that side of the bracket meant I had to wrestle the #1 seed, who was Paul Ameen - 3 time state champ. I lost that one. Can't remember the match in between the kid from Del City and Ameen, but I must've won that one. Also, the #2 seed lost in the first round and I ended up wrestling him in my second consolation match. I lost that one too. The bracket broke wrong for me. I really needed #2 and #3 to meet in the semi's. Ended up not placing. Them's the grits.

I said all that to say this, I believe that a champion is the one left standing at the end of a tournament. That's how you know who is the champion. That's what I love about the NCAA basketball tournament, wrestling tournament, and CWS. You know who the champion is. Yeah, maybe it's not always the best team who cuts down the nets at the end of the season, but by gum NO ONE questions their right to cut them down. Sometimes freshmen from Missouri upset Kenny Monday (world champ, two Olympic gold medals) in the Big 8 wrestling tournament (in GIA on his home mat no less), but no one questions his right to have his hand raised in the air. That's the frustrating thing about college football, which otherwise is the greatest game in the history of the world. But it is also one of the great things about college football, and one of the things that makes it so much fun. When the NCAA basketball tournament ends the conversation ends. However, Auburn fans (and SEC fans in general) still talk about their undefeated season and being left out of the BCS two-step. Heck, if I were the Auburn AD I would make a banner and hang it on the wall. Does Georgia deserve to play in the BCS game if the chips fall right and the BCS formula puts them in it? Until we have a true champion then why the freak not. If the poll puts them there, they deserve it. Missouri vs. Georgia would be an awfully good game.

Go Dawgs! Sic em! Woof! Woof! Woof!

RxCowboy wrote:

dapolla wrote:

Like I said, the best team in the country in ANY sport rarely wins a playoff.

I'm about 11 pages behind in this discussion, so forgive me if I retread ground that has already been walked on. I've been having a similar discussion with my closest friends who live in Big 12 country. They were, um, griping that our beloved Dawgs might make it to the BCS championship game without winning the conference. Here is what I wrote to them... it seems pertinent given what Dapolla has written here... with a few parenthetical comments to help...

When I was a freshman wrestling for Grant (high school) we went to the conference wrestling tournament, the old Mid-State Conference, back before everything was divided into districts. I had won a few matches that year, including a couple in the All-City that year, but not very many. When Dean Choate went to the coaches' meeting for the seedings, he argued for seeding me fourth in the tournament because I had beaten a couple of the other guys in the conference. The other coaches wanted the kid from Del City, whom I had beaten once before, to be seeded fourth. Dean Choate's response was \"well, just turn 'em loose.\" He wanted me to wrestle the kid from Del City the first match to show who was the better wrestler. He tells me this when we were meeting after the brackets were set and says, in front of the team no less, \"And you'd damn well better beat him... or don't come back.\" I went out and beat the kid. The only thing Choate said during the match was in the second period when he said, \"Pin him now.\" I complied. Showed everyone that I was better than him. Of course, being on that side of the bracket meant I had to wrestle the #1 seed, who was Paul Ameen - 3 time state champ. I lost that one. Can't remember the match in between the kid from Del City and Ameen, but I must've won that one. Also, the #2 seed lost in the first round and I ended up wrestling him in my second consolation match. I lost that one too. The bracket broke wrong for me. I really needed #2 and #3 to meet in the semi's. Ended up not placing. Them's the grits.

I said all that to say this, I believe that a champion is the one left standing at the end of a tournament. That's how you know who is the champion. That's what I love about the NCAA basketball tournament, wrestling tournament, and CWS. You know who the champion is. Yeah, maybe it's not always the best team who cuts down the nets at the end of the season, but by gum NO ONE questions their right to cut them down. Sometimes freshmen from Missouri upset Kenny Monday (world champ, two Olympic gold medals) in the Big 8 wrestling tournament (in GIA on his home mat no less), but no one questions his right to have his hand raised in the air. That's the frustrating thing about college football, which otherwise is the greatest game in the history of the world. But it is also one of the great things about college football, and one of the things that makes it so much fun. When the NCAA basketball tournament ends the conversation ends. However, Auburn fans (and SEC fans in general) still talk about their undefeated season and being left out of the BCS two-step. Heck, if I were the Auburn AD I would make a banner and hang it on the wall. Does Georgia deserve to play in the BCS game if the chips fall right and the BCS formula puts them in it? Until we have a true champion then why the freak not. If the poll puts them there, they deserve it. Missouri vs. Georgia would be an awfully good game.

Go Dawgs! Sic em! Woof! Woof! Woof!

I laughed.........

I cried......

two thumbs up!

And I agree. It is easy to identify the best team. Look for the one holding the trophy at the end of the tournament.

Here we see a contrived photograph of kentdaddy and one of his assistants. They are feigning work on statistical extrapolations in a desperate, futile attempt to refute the undeniable facts ascertained by DawgSpeares' personal research.
Once again, a sad commentary on an otherwise productive life...

1. I have no hair

2. DawgSpeare must be channeling the late Furman Bisher

3. Assuming for a split second DawgSpeare is not full of poop with regards to interviewing players.........................................who cares what the players think? I don't. I need to see documentation to support any research.

OK no playoff terrorists..............

How is what we have this morning better than some form of playoff?

Please someone try to defend the system as it is now.