Alabama 8 . . . UGA 2

Buc wrote: Questions for the folks that read and participate on this board.

Why does Alabama have (8) National Championships and UGA has (2)? Championships under the guidance of Coach Bear Bryant and Coach Nick Saban. Saban has two at Alabama and one at LSU, not counting the LSU championship in the overall even though Saban has won 3.

Thought about that and tried to come to some kind of reasoning.

In between Bear Bryant and Nick Saban, the mighty Tide had good football teams, no national championships.

Along that line, UGA was national champion in 1942 and then again in 1980. Bulldogs had some very good teams through the years, however no national champions. If we are going to have a national champion every 38 years, guess we have to wait until 2018.

There have been serious coaching failures at both schools, and some coaches that I guess can be called mediocre at both universities.

I do understand that a lot of things have to go right for a team to win the national championship. Fumbles, lucky bounces, few injuries and on and on. All teams face these issues.

Somehow Alabama has figured a way to overcome these common problems, 8 times. Don’t think that it is because the State of Alabama has better football talent than say, State of Georgia, believe most would agree that Georgia is producing more and higher rated talent that Alabama.

Things that make me wonder on occasion. . . . .Solutions or suggestions anyone . . . .

Almost time for Mark Richt to take the podium at SEC meetings, headed that way.

EDit: Alabama has 13 National Championships. Just looking at two coaches and their results.

Can not disagree with any observation you made, Buc. I will offer two things as a possible reason.

First, when BAMA was winning championships by the truck load the voting was more subjective. Bryant and BAMA were larger than life. The prestige of both the man and the university may have swayed a few votes. Not minimalizing the accomplishments. They were winning the games and earned consideration. People vote for favorites, and champion teams get the edge.
Second, Bryant and Saban are WINNERS. Bryant didn't and Saban won't accept anything else. Players and coaches can get with their program or find the door.

One thing I disagree with you on ,Buc. In between Bryant and Saban, Stallings won a NC in '92.

TN Dawg, typical Buc messy up . . .

Really good read.

The Bear had his own television show in the earlier years, way before others were afforded that luxury. Comes from winning, and that certainly does prove your point, people tend to lean toward a winner. Going to be an interesting year TN Dawg . . . . .

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A thought . . . . one of the penalties against Penn State is a limit of 65 scholarship players on campus. Think we were down to 68 or 69 scholarship players recently and not on probation. Just trying to figure this problem out.

I hate to say this Buc, but refusal to over-sign may have some "flip side" ramifications. The way these gangstas "commit" these days, combined with their love for weed, beating women (hoes), guns and the night life, along with their apparent loathing for studying and improving their draft and future life prospects would seem to make over-signing a necessity. Trying to be honest and trustworthy may wind up being a great way to derail a football program.

This morning me and the guys at work were engaged in our usual football talk before the day started. Someone noted that Penn State has to vacate a boat load of wins, removing Joe Pa from the highest number of wins rankings. Someone asked who the new record holder is (D1). Joe Pa was number one until now. Bobby Bowden at one time would have been two, but had to vacate a bunch of wins. Pete Carroll was in the fraternity, until, you guessed it, wins had to be vacated. Jim Tressel was up there, until not too long ago. Quite a list, huh? I guess you ain't tryin' if you ain't cheatin'. Sad.

For what it is worth thriller, believe that one of the main reasons for Emmert's harsh ruling, other than the obvious was the theatre that was Auburn when Cam and his father were shopping. That clean escape from penalties stuck in many folks craw.

Below might shed some light on most football wins.

The decision by the NCAA eliminated 111 total wins from Paterno’s record, dropping him from 409 victories to 298. He is now seventh on the all-time list of Division I winningest coaches.


Penn State NCAA penalties: Joe Paterno lost 111 wins as a result of NCAA-imposed sanctions Monday. (AP Photo)With 408 victories, Eddie Robinson moves into the No. 1 position again, followed by Bobby Bowden (377), Bear Bryant (323), Glenn Scobey Warner (319), Amos Alonzo Stagg (314) and Tubby Raymond (300).

Frank Beamer of Virginia Tech is the active coach with the most career victories.

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Failed to mention Ohio State, feel they were given a pass. Watch Meyer move in on Penn State football players now. Go Michigan!!

Actually, Buc, 'Bama did win the national title in 1992 under Gene Stallings.

The other time Dooley had a shot at a National Championship was 1976, when Ray Goff's SEC champs lost to Pitt in the Sugar Bowl. One poll awarded Dooley's Dawgs the 1968 national title.

We WERE screwed out of a shot at the national title in 2007, but the most egregious screwing was the 1946 undefeated, untied SEC champs being denied the title in all but one poll.

Mark Richt is too good a person to win multiple national titles because - shocker! - he refuses to cheat. How many severe recruiting violations under Richt? Zero. Most of the secondary violations Richt has incurred involved texting rules which are now obsolete. You have to cheat to win in college football, folks, and that's why Georgia is stuck at this level, NOT because of Richt's coaching talent. It's his recruiting ethics that hold him back. Take it to the bank.

Interesting take dapolla, can't argue that point.....btw, glad to see you back. Funny, just read a short piece in the paper this morning about a Pittsburg sports agent, Ralph Cindrich, that blatantly called Saban a cheater......stating on a radio show to "give him a break, I know what goes on in college football"........gotta love it him calling out Saban....don't ya??