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13 years 10 months ago #35868 by Buc
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thriller wrote:

Probably nothing will come of it, but just the fact that they are asking the question AT ALL, given the nature of the job they are tasked with, makes me think that perhaps something is brewing under the surface that we haven't even thought about.

Obama on a couple of interviews that I have watched has brought up the fact that he is for a playoff. That is fine, those are his thoughts. I would like to see a playoff, and think that it is real close. I do however have mixed feelings.

When these networks start throwing around billions of dollars to the different conferences, you are right thriller . . . . . follow the money. FOX, ESPN, don't move that amount of money around without having first done their homework, and of course look for a return.

No doubt in my mind that the Cable Networks will take over and at some point will have the fans in an uproar demanding a playoff. Thing that scares me is the NCAA being in charge, that however will change once the media hype starts and blows them out of the water.

Now the Feds will jump on this and I think I know what will happen. Some how, some way, they will pull in another source of revenue. Remember that the FCC is another arm that belongs to the Feds, many of us know how the supposed "free air waves" are not really free.

I think that the NCAA and the schools that play football need to sit down and figure this out before "big brother" takes charge.

Obama mentioned this and lo and behold, Holder all of a sudden is on the stump for playoff football. Not real impressed with Holder and some of the moves he has made. Wakeup Slive and others, the hammer will drop at some point.

One last point thriller . . . Personally don't see how any program or programs can be more corrupt that what is happening in Washington. Didn't start yesterday, been going on for a long time.

One example I will give about a happening in the State of Georgia. The first expressway, called South Expressway, was from Atlanta down through Lovejoy. I-75 comes along and the expressway turns south in Clayton County, past Morrow and as we see it now. Governor Herman Talmadge owned property in Lovejoy. Wonder how that happened? Follow the money, Fiesta Bowl and Herman did just that.

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13 years 10 months ago #35869 by thriller
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Here is a quote from the DOJ AntiTrust web page:

"The mission of the Antitrust Division is to promote economic competition through enforcing and providing guidance on antitrust laws and principles.

The goal of the antitrust laws is to protect economic freedom and opportunity by promoting free and fair competition in the marketplace. "

I guess the logic is that universities that aren't in "Big 6" conferences do not have "freedom and opportunity" in the marketplace. I can agree with that. But Buc, I have to agree with you too: there is money involved, and the NCAA and the schools are far better off not letting the DOJ get involved. I'm afraid we will all lose.

NCAA needs to get it's act together and at least WORK toward a playoff system. I think we would ALL be better off. And just think of some of the match ups we would get!

GO DAWGS!

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13 years 10 months ago #35871 by Buc
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thriller, glad you are participating on this board. Mean that.

Allow me this . . . . again. :)


Jacksonville Jag's as I understand it . . . and the rest of the NFL.

Product cost in 2010 up 20%.
Total income up 11%. Numbers do not work.

My bet is that JAX loses the Jags to LA. Market larger, and of course it will give LA another chance to prove that it will not support a Pro Football Team.

Orlando Magic will lose Dwight Howard to one of three teams LA, Boston or New York. My bet is New York. Another "Dream Team Three".

Point I am trying to make is this . . . . Owners started this crap, wanting halos over their heads. Don't give a dadgum if you are Michael Jordan, or Joe Montano, there is a time and place for every part of business. Owners and players are not giving up anything, the college football conferences are giving up what? I see pay raises not only in the SEC, other conferences as well . . . . where is that money coming from? We know.

The owners are now after every penny they can put their hands on. Why? Bad judgment. Guess the fault belongs to who . . . .? Football became a rich persons sport . . . what happened to the BLUE COLLAR folks like us? I have zero respect for the NFL and the Slives and others that represent themselves to be on the up and up with respect to amateur athletics.

The players know that they have a good/great thing going on. That is the reason that they said to the owners, we will keep the same package, however we will cut our union income 10%. Owners rejected the deal . . . why? Because they have allowed these players to grab a foothold and the players can give up 10% and still make MILLIONS.

So where does this leave college/pro football? Players don't give a hoot, they have a contract to play on Saturday's and Sunday's. Where does this leave the owners/conferences, in a damn bind. Ticket sales go down, 11% moves up to 15% or more and costs move up to 25 or 30%. Where in the world does that money come from? Yep.

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13 years 10 months ago #35873 by kentdaddy
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A Senator from Utah has pushed the D0J involvement with a law suit. And yes it is being looked at on anti-trust grounds. I do not care who has to look at is as long as they coerce, persuade or cajole college football toward a playoff.

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13 years 10 months ago #35875 by averagedawg
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This economy is going to impact college football revenue.
There's a point where people just can't afford to go to a game.

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13 years 10 months ago #35879 by Buc
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Know that Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah has been bird dogging this issue for a while.

blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college...orrin-hatch-bcs.html

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