Success . . . You Decide

Buc, I gotta tell ya, that is very disturbing news about CMR and CWM meeting that recruit this Friday. You are right in assuming CWM will be back. Disturbing!!!

I think I have gone on record here on this forum that I love CMR and everything he stands for.......his Christian values, the teaching and molding of young men the way he represents UGA and also realize that these things ARE more important that football BUT.....if he continues to put his friendships and personal loyalties before the good of the UGA program, which he's paid well to succeed, then imo he's putting his job on the line. We may be at a juncture where UGA will need to make a drastic move and reconsider the decisions he's making (or not making).

Do you think Saban, UM or Carroll would put up with this scenario for a SECOND?......no, heads would roll and they would have the program right back on track if not better than before. To get to the levels of Bama, UF and USC, you need a tough, demanding, no nonsense leader as the HC to get you there. This is not the Boy Scouts.......it's turned into a tough BUSINESS and needs to be run like one.

Again, I reiterate how much I love CMR and it's hard to even have these thoughts but I also love the Dawgs and want to see us at the top.....WHERE WE SHOULD BE.





(sorry guys but Buc's post about CWM really got to me)

I'm not making excuses, but here's what I'm saying:

Georgia has a long-haul culture. That culture was begun by Wally Butts, but was cemented under Vince Dooley. Vince was at Georgia for 25 years and won six SEC titles and one national title in that span. In several years (1971, 1975, 1978, 1979, and 1983 most notably), he could have won SEC titles but failed to win that crucial game. In two years (1976 and 1982), he was one Sugar Bowl win away from a national title. In other years (1969, 1970, 1977, etc) the Dawgs were downright bad. It looked like there was no hope. But Georgia kept him on. Don't say it was because of the national title; he had more years at Georgia before 1980 than after it in terms of being head ball coach. We like to wait and see; we've liked it with everyone but Johnny Griffith -- who COULD NOT WIN -- and Jim Donnan. Given Georgia's patience, I'm still shocked -- but happy -- that we fired Donnan.

The point is that we're not reactionary. We're not Alabama. We're not Notre Dame. We're not any of these places that fire people after one or two poor seasons. Richt has still never had a losing season. He's never won fewer than 8 games (in his first year) and has beaten at least one rival (Florida, Auburn, Tech) every year, and usually (2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007) beats two per year. Things arent' going to change, not because they don't need to, but because it's not in UGA's culture to change them. We just don't react that way.

I've been saying Fire Willie for a very long time. The 2006 Tennessee game was my first inkling. It should have been the 2005 Auburn game, but I dont' want to split hairs. I want Willie gone. But Willie is going to have to step down for that to happen, unless Damon Evans grows a pair. I don't see Willie quitting his job. Sorry, Dawgs.

I certainly don't want CMR gone....he's the perfect fit for UGA but he need's to realize he's running a multi-million dollar program and tough decisions don't need to be made, they HAVE to be made. I understand the long term culture scenario but society, systems, expectations and patience has unfortunately been just that......in the past.

I know we should all be postive, but come on guys, can you honestly tell me that this program has not gone down hill. I mean look at the last 3 years, we are no better and getting worse. Look at the recruites we get, we should not miss a beat. I saw on another thread were a verbal recruite is now going to vist other schools, and this will just be one of many if our program continues to decline. I mean come on be honest with yourself and you truly tell me that things are as good as they have always been at UGA.

Duck

Reading the posts not only in this thread, but many threads over the past months leads me to wonder. Almost without fail all or 99 percent of us have made the comment that we don't want to see Coach Richt leave. And, as pointed out in many threads and posts, Coach Richt has a very high percentage of winning. He did the same thing when he was the offensive coordinator at FSU. No doubt Coach Richt not only is a man of high, very high morals, he is an excellent coach and leader of men.

Coach Richt now has many seasons under his belt at UGA. In that time he has promoted one of his assistants, WM, to a position (Defensive Coordinator) that is near and dear to the hearts of many folks that have followed the Dawgs for more years than seem possible. Back in the day when UGA was being called a \"three yard and cloud of dust\" team, one thing could be counted on, effort, even when talent was lacking.

I have never been as humiliated as I was with the UT game in 2006. However, this year we return to the checker board stadium and the same thing happened. Only this time, in my opinion, we had a team that was close to healthy and many 3, 4, and 5 star athletes. I realize that any team has games that are not played up to potential. This was not about potential, it was again coaching, and that includes both sides of the ball.

Who knows just exactly what is in Coach Richt's mind. My guess is that he knows that something has to be done, and maybe he does not see the problem being his defensive coach. If that is the case, then all of us can do nothing more than watch the outcome of things to come.

It appears to me that the weakest link on this team is WM, and not far behind at this point is CMB. If we have the athletes, why are we getting our cans kicked by teams that should not being doing that?

One last statement . . . . who is going to QB this team next year, and how much can be expected from an inexperienced person at that position.

Buc....WHO KNOWS??????......like you said, guess we have to wait and see.