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9 years 10 months ago #66330 by Buc
Think without a doubt I have more negative things to say about urban "liar" meyer than anyone else on this board or maybe on the internet.

Brace yourself, the following is about urban "liar" meyer telling the "truth". From where I sit.

Have tried to avoid watching the ESPN "promotion shoots" about the Ohio State head coach, yesterday caught off guard and heard urban say this . . . . Want to win National Championships? Two things come first . . . . you have to have an offensive and defensive line. Not a word at that point about the running back that appeared unstoppable.

That has been the position of two or three on this board from some time. One of those that has been in the camp is DAWGtm. Often speaks about the offensive line.

Nothing wrong with being infatuated with great running backs, but has been said, they ain't great for long if there is no offensive line capable of aiding in their headlines. That is not knocking the running backs, that is a special talent that "some" have. There are however winning football teams that do not have special talent at running back that beat others rated higher because they have a very good offensive line.

Also applies to the defensive front. Have read many posts about teams having to play their defense too much and, big fronts not performing in the latter stages of the game. That is what I saw in the National Championship Game this time around. Oregon likes to wear defenses out, then the really big numbers appear in the second half. OSU came prepared for that and as a result they are National Champions.

Comes back to this . . . . "liar" understood that he needed to be involved with the SEC to "improve" his game. What he learned after a short time in the SEC, and winning two NC, he did not understand the depth of having offensive and defensive lines. He now understands that, took the SEC way of doing things, such as 7 straight National Championships, by way of the offensive and defensive lines.

Believe what you want, I will play your team and I guarantee you we will have the two fronts necessary to hoist trophies, and watch you walk off of the field with shoulder pads slumped.

Unfortunately we have been saddled with a head coach that has been in the SEC for 14 years, starting his 15th year, he still has not "learned" the thing that urban "liar" meyer caught on to in a short time, and added another NC to his resume.

This is the formula that Nick Saban has used since returning to the SEC to win NC's. Anyone wonder why Saban gave permission to issue Taylor a uniform? Also Saban coached the same way at LSU, check the linemen that he recruited while there. Simple math.

Do I have great admiration for Chubb, Michel, Gurley and others, sure do, but also understand what "they" need to move on in their lives successfully.

For those of you that don't watch the offensive line play when a game is on TV, take your eyes off of the running backs for a few plays and see where the "real game" is played. Same can be said for the defensive line. Many do watch defensive line play, but let's face it, got eyes on the sack masters, not the big guys forcing a quarterback into the hands and arms of the sack masters.

Close with this. Appears to me that urban "liar" meyer is far and away a better "football coach" than Mark Richt. I base that on National Championships at this point. Also, meyer took some time off, he was losing the offensive and defensive line wars. Smart enough to figure out what was wrong and now we see the results, and again he said this . . . . Game is won in the trenches and his trenches are loaded for 2015. Yes Mark Richt is a "good man".
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9 years 10 months ago #66331 by Buc
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Below is an example of what the folks that write the columns have to say about this NC game and any college football game for that matter, or if it matters.

Photo shots, running backs, how many times do we see the winning coach with his arms around one of the offensive linemen, not often . . . . ever? All about the clicks, newsprint out of business, rely on clicks.

markbradley.blog.ajc.com/2015/01/13/ezek...o-the-promised-land/

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9 years 10 months ago #66332 by DAWGtm
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You are right Buc, ask any back that is worth his salt and he will give the credit to the line. I know what Gurley and Chubb think of their lineman I have heard them giving praise. Don't know alot about our new o-line coach he is having to fill big shoes. Just hoping the reason he was hired was to save a couple of $$ being McScrooge had to open his purse for the other coaches.
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9 years 10 months ago #66335 by Buc
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DAWGtm, much has changed in the way running backs are selected in the NFL. Was a time when they were in the top five or ten. This day and time, running backs have fallen to the bottom of the first round.

What made the Dallas Cowboys a better football team over the past two years? Offensive line drafts.

At some point we as fans of Georgia football have to understand that it is a team game. Since somewhere around 2005-2007, our recruiting has been talked about because of the running back position, have had a couple of good quarterbacks.

Anyone that doubts what happened to us, go back and look at the total failure of Mark Richt to understand the need for an offensive line. Why? I would say he like many other mediocre head coaches need the glitz of running backs and quarterbacks to draw attention to the program, keeps the Row very happy.

It has long been time for a head coach at Georgia to play team ball, not Mahogany Row ball. Those with the cleats on are the "team" those on Mahogany Row are "handlers/manipulators".

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9 years 10 months ago - 9 years 10 months ago #66351 by NC_Dawg
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Buc,

Had intended to post something very similar to your thread earlier this week, but life/work kept getting in my way! Many, MANY clear and valid takeaways from the Ducks -v- Bucks game...The most salient and distasteful; at least for me, is to acknowledge that CUM is a damn good coach! I personally loath him for his arrogance, but denying his coaching, game planning and motivating skills no longer serves a purpose. CUM has three (3) Natty's at two (2) different institutions and conferences. CMR,................CRICKETS!!!!

I watched the game, not particularly interested in either teams victory, but found myself truly captivated by the manner in which OSU dissected and dismantled Oregon. I saw an animated, engaged HC, involved in EVERY aspect of the game. And I wondered, many times, could our team compete against either OSU or Oregon....Sadly the voice in my head was sounding a loud....NO!

Another takeaway, and it's likely this comment will not be agreeable to some herein, but the Play-Offs were a huge success! If this years final game were decided by the BCS, we would have been watching Bama -v- Free Shoes. Moreover, the Play-Offs now provide a true vehicle for a team, like OSU, to peak late in the season and run the table. Certainly the same can and should be said of Baylor and TCU, and I hope the Play-Offs expand to eight to allow for more post season turmoil...But unlike the BCS of years past, there is absolutely NO DOUBT about who won and whether they deserved to be there!

As for the comments expressed regarding the "O" and "D" lines....there have been numerous posts dating back to CMR's earliest years expressing similar angst! It's a skill set that CMR simple DOES NOT possess, or worse, cares very little to possess! Add this to the long list alongside clock management, vanilla play calling, ambiguous special teams,......14 years have proven that CMR "chooses" to follow a different path than that of Saban, CUM, and the Hatter, and there's no sense in opening that discussion....

I'll end with this....Lots of coaching changes, but what has "really" changed? Are we likely to see a break from the "Pro-Style" offense? Will we recruit more of the "Big Uglies" for our "O" and "D" line? Will we see a resurgence in the "JYD's"? 14 years says brace yourself for more of the same....until Mahogany Row tires of modest gains!!!

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9 years 10 months ago #66352 by Buc
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Suggestion NC_Dawg . . . . Less work and more posts. :)

Several points you make are simply true.

Some won't like this but . . . . Too many folks every year at this time are given the Public Relations version of "water boarding".

Anyone reading much of the chatter on the internet now could turn the pages back, year after year, copy has been written and everything remains the same. Until . . . . either SS kicks us, or a couple others spoil the party for those that succumbed to the PR Water Board.

Think it comes down to this. Many folks just like to believe that we are all that, has been that way for x amount of years. Last National Championship? Last SEC Championship?

Here we are again losing coaches that apparently knew enough about Mahogany Row and our head coach and athletic director to saddle up and ride out of Athens. Did not wait for "High Noon".

For sure Pruitt had his horse saddled. Would not be surprised to see the saddle remain on his steed, there will be further confusion that is closer than some might think.

Bad news, no just have a problem with "what I do know" and see the same BS again. Bad news . . . . been around at least since 2007, then another piece was added to the BS pile in 2010. What should I expect, definitely living outside the "arena" when it comes to the group that don't belong in the "Hole in the Wall Gang".

Think it is time for Georgia Football to find a "Butch" to get our train back on the tracks.

In my little world, I watch the clip below and think of those in Athens that they remind me of, what about you, see any similarities, both good and "useless". Get tired of using the word "bad".

www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/221377/Butch...Guns-or-Knives-.html

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