Todd Gurley Suspended

FSU's handling of their qb situation may be great leadership if the goal is winning championships. For me i was not so impressed. I just cant see how winning is so important to tarnish the reputation of your school. The football team is there because of the university, not the other way around.

scooby wrote: FSU's handling of their qb situation may be great leadership if the goal is winning championships. For me i was not so impressed. I just cant see how winning is so important to tarnish the reputation of your school. The football team is there because of the university, not the other way around.

To "dovetail" on what you are saying scooby, read the following article by Christine Brennan on JW in the USA Today that she wrote a couple of days ago. Pretty bold lady






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The embarrassment continues unabated at Florida State, a school that has put the need to win football games above all else, including an alleged rape, a Title IX violation and, pending an investigation, an NCAA rule that some schools still actually follow.

The amazingly still-eligible Jameis Winston is preparing for the big Notre Dame game Saturday as if all of that — as well as stealing crab legs from a Publix and soda from a Burger King, firing a BB gun at his apartment complex and making a spectacle of himself yelling a vulgar phrase while standing on a table in the student union — never happened.






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Jimbo Fisher addresses Jameis Winston autograph inquiry


It must be so much fun to be a Florida State fan right now, living inside that morality-free bubble that fits so snugly over the campus in Tallahassee. Your young and impressionable football coach, Jimbo Fisher, believes every single word Winston has to say about signing autographs, because Jameis is just so, well, so incredibly believable.

An allegation of rape? Come on. That's old news now. When you mishandle it this bad for this long, nearly two years, you might as well just forget about it entirely, right, Seminoles? Plus, that's what civil lawsuits are for.

And all those autographs Winston signed and for which he of course didn't get paid one penny? After 22 months of successfully stiff-arming scandal, why stop now? Don't be cautious like Georgia and even Texas A&M. Roll the dice. Worst case scenario, should you win another national title and have to give it up someday because Winston actually might not be telling the truth, everyone would know you won it on the field, and lost it later to the despised NCAA. So that almost counts as a win-win, right?

As lost in the wilderness as Florida State and its fans are at the moment, perhaps even they would admit that it's officially awful when Texas A&M's handling of anything involving Johnny Manziel is seen as taking the moral high ground compared to what your school is doing.

Of course, to the world outside FSU, it's just one more mile post down the road to that special place in 21st century athletics where universities' reputations go to die

Christine Brennan as you say wlayton, "Bold Lady".

Beginning to have flashbacks of urban meyer while running (ruining) the program for the gators.

Of course these head football coaches have no knowledge of what the players are doing. Having said that, that is the problem. If we are gullible enough to believe these coaches that understand one thing . . . . win at any cost. Also I would say to Christine Brennan the NCAA has run their program(s) very much like some of the head coaches. I said that.

Amen Buc it's too easy did he do it or not No rocket science HERE!!!

That is just it. We as a society have compromised what leadership is IMO? Sports are probably the worst example. Is leadership winning football games? Or is leadership disciplining young men for their mistakes, trying to help them improve themselves so they might succeed outside of football. Is Jimbo a leader? He has a NC and wins a lot of football games. Sure Miami stood up to the NCAA, and FSU is, but that doesn't mean they were right in doing so IMO.

Or is leadership suspending the best player in the country because he has told you he has made a mistake? Is leadership releasing a kid for stepping out of line, but caring enough about a kid that you truly hope he does well? Allowing that kid the option of returning to use your facilities on pro day because you truly want the young man to be successful? Is leadership establishing the PO foundation because life after football for football players is tough?

I don't want to sound negative, or ripping anyone, but I saw many angry with CMR because UGA acted, and didn't sweep this under the rug. Not saying anyone particular on this site, but others as well, have expressed that we should take the FSU approach. Is that really what we want? Regardless of how absurd the rule is, it is still a rule. And Gurley had been educated on those rules. And he chose to break the rules. Do we really want to turn our heads, and act like we saw nothing? Is that leadership?

There is a coach I have gained a ton of respect for in East Tennessee. I played against his teams, coached against his teams, and have the upmost respect for him. He has won something like 11 out of 14 state championships in the last 14 years. He has been offered D1 coordinating jobs. His motto is this, after winning state championships. He tells his players and assistants "Don't let today be the best day of your life." Makes sense after I got away from the game, and was blessed with a beautiful wife, and 2 beautiful daughters. I love them, but I will not sweep anything under the rug for my 2 girls. Wrong will always be wrong.

I realize many believe that football and life are 2 different playing fields. Maybe for some. I have the best Dad in the world, he has made me into who I am today. But, I learned many life lessons from my high school coach and college coach. They put their touches on who I am today. I used to tell my players that the easiest way to expose someone's character is competition.

Is CMR not a leader because he refuses to lower his standards on drug use, or he refuses to turn his head on wrong? Or is he not a leader because he doesn't call the play we wanted, or he has never won a NC?

Sorry to be so long. Lot of thought going through my head. Also, curious to see how the whole autograph thing goes. Lot deeper than just Gurley and Winston. Tons of autographed items out there for tons of athletes.

GO DAWGS, don't have a great feeling about Saturday. Ark is a lot better than their record.

That is one GREAT post AD5....couldn't agree more.

Our society has been spiraling downhill for years now and it is no surprise it has engulfed sports.

CMR doesn't hesitate to suspend a player and that is the right thing to do not only for the kid but for the school as well. How much more embarrassing would it be to turn your head and let him keep playing then find evidence he was guilty and have to forfeit all those games.

The right thing was done.....I just wish they could expedite the process. If no proof, let him play....if guilty, keep him suspended.

Will society ever get back to morals, great character and total honesty??....I doubt it....SAD.