A paradox for discussion,...

For those that haven't noticed, I often like to take an opposing viewpoint for no other purpose than instigating dialogue...stirring the stew, so to speak, which is the very purpose of a forum of this nature. With that in mind, I fell upon a rather long tread this morning on one of the many sites I visit and thought I would pose the same question here. Its a rather interesting twist on the oddity that is Urban Meyers retirement turned indefinite leave of absence, with some insight provided by none other that Mrs. Shelley Meyer..............

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\"Shelley, a psychiatric nurse, spoke then of just how damaging coaching was both to her husband and family; any loss, much less the one to Alabama that helped send him to the hospital early this month, always left Meyer devastated.

\"He's miserable,\" Shelley said then. \"He can't sleep, and he can't eat: He's in the tank. The 2004 Utah season was the best ever, because we didn't lose a game. Last year we lost to Ole Miss, and he went into the depths as he always does: The game ends and I'm like, 'Oh, I know what it's going to be.' And so do my kids: 'Oh, great, dad's going to be in a terrible mood.' He sits alone, and the worst thing is if we have people over. Because we have people every
week for games and the worst part is if we lose, what do you do with your company? They don't want to sit around and cry.

\"And you can't ask them to leave -- even though we all want to leave. He just wants to sit all by himself. He goes in the den, he doesn't want to talk to anybody, doesn't want to see anybody. He usually puts the TV on and he usually just wants me to come sit with him. He can't sleep that night. Terrible, terrible. And he's up by 5 a.m. the next morning and in (his office) watching that film: What went wrong? It's the most distraught thing you've ever seen, because it's all his fault -- in his mind: It's my fault. What did I do? I didn't put the players in the position to win.\"

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With those quotes posted numerous canine posters opinned on the following questions.........

* Is this the type of coach we want at UGA?
* Would you willing trade a coach like CMR for a coach like CUM?
* Is winning everything, or is character part of the equation?

Clearly, the differences between CMR and CUM are as vast as polararity. Yet, CUM's investment has translated into success the likes most only dream about and apparently have cost him his health. One could equally argue does short term success translate to long term tenure?...Time will only tell...

I distinctly remember a certain head coach that developed sideline chest pain during a difficult season. Flanked by some institutional turmoil and subsequent investigation, said coach ultimately found himself on the receiving end of a successful angioplasty secondary to a cardiac cath...I believe a year or so later said coach left the side lines to become AD...His name?? ....Vince Dooley....What the stresses of HC didn't rob from Vince, the Jan Kemp investigation and subsequent sanctions finalized. Now I'm NOT saying that there are impending sanctions at UF, I make this comparison solely to compare and constrast the similarities of stress and ones health. An issue I am personally all to familiar with!

There has been a not so subtle shift in coaching persona. The \"win at all cost\" mentality has become more of a means to an end than outlier. More coaches are adopting this persona, should we?

UGA is at a crossroad. We've had a difficult and disappointing season that ended with the dismissal of several coaches, many questioning the abitlity of those remaining, including CMR. Mark's decisions in the next few days/weeks could set the stage for future success, or begin the first few stanza's of his requiem.

So,....if given the keys to the kingdom, which road would you take?........



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I personally believe you can have a great coaching staff with both.

Believe you can WIN with CHARACTER and INTEGRITY.

I've seen it in my life and I've done it in my life.

I agree with Wlayton, Also I believe if CUM comes back he and his family are in for more bad times, Cause no team stays on top!! You must be able to accept you cannot always win and not take it out on your friends and family and ultimately your own health. Because he has has the perfect mix of a great DC in strong and a freak talent at QB for what they have been doing on OFF. and thats all about to change. So IMO he needs to step back if he cant handle it cause next season aint gonna be as purdy for the gators with all thats leaving.

Very interesting. With the comments of Mrs. Meyer being distributed for all to see. In my mind it takes a very special person (partner) to not dodge issues. Someone of course was interviewing Mrs. Meyer and had her permission to have it released to the media.

Would like to have names of the site or person that released this very informative information. Sometimes I tend to become wary of published information on the internet and have often found said information to be totally erroneous. Not saying this is the case, just a thought . . . .

It would be wrong to think that Coach Richt did not have a lot on his plate. Think that 99% of us know that, and respect him for his stance on most of his issues.

Cancer has probably touched each and every one of us in one way or another on this board and often I think that was the reason he started delegating much of his hands on approach. I attended a funeral in Atlanta this weekend. My first cousin, Margaret Brown Shubert passed last Friday with the dreaded disease. Margaret was a graduate of UGA as were her brother and sister. He father being Dr. Bill Brown, who served UGA from the early forties until his retirement and passing. I can only imagine what Coach Richt was and is going through with some things that have come up in his life.

Sorry about that . . . .NC_Dawg asked:
UGA is at a crossroad. We've had a difficult and disappointing season that ended with the dismissal of several coaches, many questioning the ability of those remaining, including CMR. Mark's decisions in the next few days/weeks could set the stage for future success, or begin the first few stanza's of his requiem.

At some point in our lives we all have to make decisions that not only effect us, they have huge effects on many. I hope that Coach Richt is energized, ready to look into the eye of the storm and safely sail us through some troubling waters. I know in my heart that it is not about the money that Coach Richt coaches these young men, he will never have a problem paying the rent. He proved to one and all at UGA that he has the talent to lead. Hope that he hitches up his britches (the silver ones) and continues making each and every one of us proud. Finish the drill.

NC_Dawg, thanks for this thread, makes one reach down a bit further and look at different aspects of the game AMERICAN FOOTBALL.

Go Dawgs!!

Here ya go : sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/s...sircrc#ixzz0b6r9ZbRl


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After reading what she had to say, my first reaction is that it's the way we all feel after a loss!
Heck, I'm not even on the team and I can't sleep after a loss and second guess every little thing. The difference is that CUM has to let it go and move on. There is more to life than football.
He should seek the advice from Timmy. Timmy is obsessed with winning and hurts just as much after a loss but he knows it aint everything and gets right back on the horse.

That being said (and to answer the question), yes, I want a coach like Meyer because I am selfish