Sadlerdawg,

I won't defend CMR in any manner, shape or form. But if you'll indulge a rant...

I think Mark Richt at Georgia has the Tony Dungy syndrome when he was in Tampa Bay; he has simply reached his maximum potential limit to coach these teams beyond where they're going. There were a lot of fans in Tampa Bay that were furious over the firing of Dungy because of his community involvement and good Christian values. But when the Glazers hired Jon Gruden who won a Super Bowl the very next season, not only did they look like geniuses, but they also proved two very good points: (A.) Dungy had reached his limit in Tampa Bay and (B.) it's not about the cult of personality of the coach, it's about championships. For whatever reason(s), Dungy couldn't get it done in Tampa Bay. For whatever reason(s), CMR cannot get it done in Georgia. And the longer this hemorrhaging continues, the longer this team is going to exemplify and celebrate mediocrity.

There's no shortage of people out there that love CMR, think he's a great face for the program. But what seems to get lost in the shuffle here is what a really great face for the program looks like: a face that demands and wins national titles. Something I've never, ever sensed out of CMR is the urgency to win championships. Nowhere in that muted, subdued, gentle personality have I ever sniffed out any desire to get down to the blood, sweat and tears of winning a national title.

This team and its fans have gone far beyond giving this coach the benefit of the doubt. I don't see how anyone in their right mind can continue to defend Richt & Co.

sadlerdawg, good question, and one that needs to be answered.

Stayed away from posting last night as what I witnessed was worse that what I saw against Tennessee '07, and that damn near drove me crazier than I profess to be.

Not sure, but think it was ogredawg sometime back that made the comment that players take on the personality of their coaches. Last night we saw two different coaching styles, Spurrier vs Richt and for the third time in three years . . . . evident which side is getting the job done.

Staying on that thought for a minute. When Richt called the team together to begin the fourth quarter, the camera angle had Grantham in the lens. Grantham did not move his lips, stone cold faced. That is not the same Todd Grantham that came to the University of Georgia from Dallas. He came to us ready to go to war.

What happened to that coach? I have my thoughts. Most of the thoughts go back to his superiors calling him down for the Florida and Vandy incidents. This coach came to Athens to coach football not continue on the same path of losing games like this encounter with South Carolina. One can bet that Florida or South Carolina never got on Spurrier about throwing his visor to the turf in disgust. Some things do not need to be "messed" with.

I am probably as disgusted or close to being as disgusted as some on this board. Do not agree that everyone on the coaching staff needs to find a new place of residence.

sadlerdawg this is where you and I have agreed on more than one occasion. The Captain barks the orders on a ship, thought that Richt had reached or came close to that point since being releived of the extra duties he carried under the previous Athletic Director. Watching last nights game, carrying the extra load under Evans and having the load removed by McGarity has not changed the outcome of UGA football.

My opinion, time for McGarity to step up and take "total control". Patch work did not work, and will only get worse with losses such as this one. I sure as heck don't want four more years of this.

sadlerdawg you make another excellent point. Losing a game is one thing, hands on hips and accepting defeat, won't flush.

One person that has stayed true to his beliefs on this board . . . . kentdaddy. Has not wavered like myself and some others.

Willing to debate this issue. Turn this over to Todd Grantham and let's see what UGA football can do. That is only if the "Blue Bloods" will remove his nozzle.

Folks, Florida is getting better by the day. Their quarterback runs the ball as good or better than the quarterback we just faced in Columbia. Also has a big time arm. Muschamp started slow, but with the talent he has recruited in the coming group, nothing short of awesome. Pease running the Boise State offense in Florida, don't know how many folks watched Florida/LSU, goes to show what imagination can do when performed correctly.

Sad day today. Watch the uncommited players and maybe some of the commits.

SouthernDawg, you know of what you speak. Sounds as if you were around in the days of Tony Dungy, I was. The example that you draw between Dungy and Richt is a perfect example of what happened in Tampa, and now Athens.

The best case- Tennessee fires Dooley and they take Richt-- that way we continue to beat them bad every year!!

Mike Honcho wrote:


Mike, came back to your post a couple of times. If the truth has ever been expressed, you did so on the subject of the trenches.

Examples of winning year after year, one only needs to look at the teams/coaches that understand where a game starts and ends. When we talk or read about Saban, it is normally devoted to offensive and defensive lines being superior to others.

When we discuss LSU, it boils down to the majority of folks talking about the offensive and defensive lines, especially the defensive lines.

We can look at any program across the country and especially the SEC, the winning programs year after year understand good line play. This has been missing at UGA for a long time, and not sure the problem has been addressed.

Comments were made last night and today about our offensive coaches and their priorities in recruiting. One has only to look at the past several years and count the number of offensive linemen especially that have chosen universities outside the State of Georgia. Offensive side not doing a yeoman's job of pulling in big nasties compared to elite running backs. Someone needs to get the message to the offensive coaches that the two go hand in hand. Check last nights game out for verification.

OK I have a question for you, why is it that USC loses several key starters off their D and have not missed a beat. We return 10 starter from a 5th rank D to get blasted in every game except Vandy. I hear about the OL, well USC had a young OL just like us, and they put our great D on their A--. Last year we had experience and the biggest OL in the nation, they did no more than the OL this year.

I saw SS looked at the Misz and Tenn game films, and designed plays to explort our D and they scored at will. CMR had no such play to counter for USC D, we will just do our same old 4 or 5 plays and if everyone exacutes, we will be fine. I also have said that CMR will never take us to another SEC title much less a NC, this was the perfit year with our schedule. But on National TV, we were made to like like a top 40 team reather that a top 5 team. I for one saw the D quit by the middle of the 3rd quarter, some will say they did not, to me they looked like the bunch that quite 2 years ago against Fla.

I think AM is not the QB for UGA, he does ok in some games, but on the big stage, he chokes. He had a quote in this mornings paper, when asked about the game, well we'll just have to look at the file, and correct our mistakes. Sounds just like something CMR would say. Also heard CMR make excusses on the after game show, If Rambo would have intercepted the pass it may have been a game changer, if we would have scored before half might have been a game changer. Excuse after excuse!!!

As most on here have said, no changes will be made, our fan base is happy with 9 or 10 wins, they all like having a christian moral coach. We will sit by and watch SS take USC to a NC and just about every program in the SEC at is relevent, will have a NC except UGA.

One last thing, from what I have seem we will now be a 4th place team in the east, for Tenn is making progress, and Fla is already above us, so even this year, we are a 3rd place team. But our CMR said we can still back in to the SEC title game, hope thaat USC loses 2, we always have to hope someone can beat someone else, for we can not take matter in our on hands.

So if they have the "muzzle" or are holding CTG back and not letting him coach in the way he knows how to coach, it is time for him to move on to somewhere that will let him coach.

Me I am not buying that. CTG is not the answer for Georgia Football. Wish I knew the answer but what I do know it is not the current head coach or his staff. The look on CTG face in the 4th qtr. was defeat. He knows a lost cause when he sees one and he saw one last night around 8:30 of the 3rd qtr when Lattimore scored to make it 28 zip.


Ya know I am tired of beating this dead horse. Time for me to take a break from this board.

LimeyDawg wrote:


Nope. Football is more at a personal level with a tighter fan base. All it will take is people not filling the stadium, which started happening this season. Plus, banks don't have competition to make them look bad. Comparing the two is laughable at best.